Wednesday, June 20, 2018

Weaponizing the Bible


Many thanks to Katherine for drawing our attention to the (im)morality of the Trump Administration's policy of separating immigrant parents claiming asylum status from their children, sometimes for months at a time, with no visible process for ensuring they would ever be reunited.  United States Attorney General Jeff Sessions piqued some interest, and also raised some eyebrows, when he recently defended that policy by citing a biblical passage.

As reported by Religion News Service (RNS) reporters Emily McFarlan Miller and Yonat Shimron in a 'Splainer article, Sessions turned to St. Paul:
“I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,” Sessions said. “Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful.”
McFarlan Miller and Shimron note that this citation was later echoed by White House Press Secretary (and minister's daughter) Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

The passage in question is St. Paul's Letter to the Romans 13:1-2,  Here it is in the New American Bible (NAB) translation which is proclaimed in Catholic churches:
Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God.  Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves.
The key term there is "higher authorities".  In the NAB  version, who those "higher authorities" are, is not clear at first glance. But the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV), widely used by the United Methodist Church of which Sessions is a member, translates the first phrase as, "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities."  The Common English Bible (CEB) translation, also widely used by Methodists, puts it even more simply: "Every person should place themselves under the authority of the government."

So Sessions' and Sanders' exegesis is pretty straightforward:
  • We're the government
  • The government was established by God
  • The Bible says you should place yourself under the authority of the government
  • Therefore, you must accept whatever we say and do
Now, this is a somewhat surprising claim: one would think that we Americans, whose charter statement, the Declaration of Independence, takes as self-evident the right of a people to dissolve their allegiance to an unjust government and replace it with another, would not be likely to accept such a claim as Sessions' without some scrutiny and consideration.  And in fact, Sessions himself was not known for uncritical acceptance of the federal government's policies when he was a member of the Senate, at least during the Clinton and Obama years.

As for the Catholic church, its views on the matter of governing authority, as stated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, are a bit more complicated than Sessions' gloss.  After noting that human society must be governed (1898), and - citing that same passage from Romans - that the authority to govern human society comes from God (1899), the Catechism includes this important qualifier in 1903:
Authority is exercised legitimately only when it seeks the common good of the group concerned and if it employs morally licit means to attain it. If rulers were to enact unjust laws or take measures contrary to the moral order, such arrangements would not be binding in conscience. In such a case, "authority breaks down completely and results in shameful abuse." (John XXIII, Pacem in Terris, 51)
The Rev. James Martin, SJ, in an America article with the headline "Blindly following the law is not 'biblical'", continues in this social-teaching vein:
It is not biblical to treat migrants and refugees like animals. It is not biblical to take children away from their parents. It is not biblical to ignore the needs of the stranger. It is not biblical to enforce unjust laws. The Bible should not be used to justify sin.  It should also be clear where Jesus stands on these questions. Jesus stands where he always stands and where we should stand: with the poor and marginalized.
McFarlan Miller and Shimron of RNS note that this is not the first time this passage has been invoked to defend government policy:
Romans 13 played a critical role in the American Revolution, writes George Mason University historian Lincoln Mullen. For obvious reasons, loyalists who favored obedience to King George III of England liked to quote Romans 13; revolutionaries also used it to argue that Paul never meant to justify despotic rulers.  Prior to the Civil War, after Congress passed the Fugitive Slave Act, the passage was cited again. The act, which allowed slaves who had escaped to freedom in the North to be forcibly returned to their owners in the South, was employed this time to rein in anyone who would challenge the lawfulness of slavery.  The passage was used once again in the civil rights movement of the 1960s. The Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. famously made a point about it in his “Letter from Birmingham Jail” as he explained that Christians should subject themselves to the governing authorities as they do good, not evil: "One may well ask: 'How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?'  The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust.  I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws.  One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws.  Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
Martin gets to the heart of what is troubling about Sessions' and Sanders' biblical invocation to defend a policy that seems indefensible:
Mr. Sessions is engaging in what is known as “proof-texting” that is, cherry-picking Bible passages to prove a point without referring to (or even understanding) the overall context of the quote. Often, especially in political battles, this technique is used to weaponize the Bible.

32 comments:

  1. Asked about the quote on NPR, Archbishop Wenski of Miami noted that Jesus failed to follow Paul when he failed to stone the woman taken in adultery. Instead of saying Jesus should take some more Bible study courses, Wenski suggested Jefferson Beauregard Sessions should.

    But that's a Catholic interpretation.

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  2. A lot of my early Catholic education was based on "proof-texting." For example, when Jesus said, "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church," he was inventing the papacy. Bind and loose. Whose sins you shall forgive.

    Let us not forget that in 1 Samuel 15, Saul is disobedient when he fails to slaughter all the men, women, children, and cattle of the Amalekites. (As far as I can tell, its leaving some of the best cattle alive that is his sin, not sparing any women and children.) This is a much debated issue over on Strange Notions (and elsewhere), but the "orthodox" position there is that God can give permission to slaughter children. Why can't he give permission to keep them in cages?

    Weaponizing the Bible is nothing new. Proof-texting is nothing new. It's proof-texting when somebody uses a quote you don't like. It's not proof texting when the anti-Trump forces quote Jesus saying, "Suffer the children to come unto me." That proves Sessions is misquoting.

    If you obey only just laws and are free (in fact, obligated) to disobey unjust laws, then who is to decide which laws are just and unjust? It used to be that homosexual acts were criminal. Now we have same-sex marriage. I doubt that fifty or so years ago Catholics would have argued that gay people had a right to commit illegal sex acts. (Actually, the official Church still doesn't support gay rights.) Marijuana used to be illegal everywhere, but no doubt eventually it will be legal practically everywhere. Were the laws against it just or unjust?

    Given the very great income inequality in the United States, it wouldn't be too hard to make an argument that the whole scheme of laws in the United States is unjust.

    Of course, I agree that the Sessions-Trump handling of immigration is inhumane and immoral, but I am just saying that almost any use of the Bible is questionable and matters of which laws are unjust and ought to be obeyed are by no means simple.

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  3. David, interesting points. The set of arguments I brought forth to refute Sessions and Sanders are points of view that would seem to recognize the authority of the Bible; naturally, there are various other points of view out there that would scoff at the idea that the Judeo-Christian scriptures have any authority at all - either because they recognize some other holy book or system of religious authority, or because they think the entire notion of religious authority is superstition or some other brand of hokum.

    But within the set of those who are inclined to accept biblical authority, quite a few folks think that Sessions' interpretation is a bad interpretation. Naturally, Catholic thought is not sola scriptura; we recognize that God's presence and his will may be apprehended via the senses, reason, nature and so on. I tried to paint the picture that Catholic social thought on the nature of the legitimacy of public authority incorporates the very same scripture verses that Sessions cited - but elaborates and qualifies its conclusions in ways that are a good deal more sophisticated than Sessions' bald conclusion. And even adherents of sola scriptura revelation think that Sessions is engaging in bad exegesis.

    As to who decides which laws are just and which are unjust: in the United States, I guess it is the people through their elected representatives and through the courts whose judges are either elected by the people or nominated and confirmed by the elected representatives. If the notions of justice are changing in the United States, it's almost surely because its people are changing. We're both more diverse and less religious - including markedly less mainline Protestant - than we were a century ago.

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  4. David, your point -- that the devil can quote scripture -- is good and valid. I think I distinguish between listening to the word of God and proof-texting this way: If it inconveniences the speaker, it is the word of God. If the speaker uses it to inconvenience others, it is proof-texting.

    I don't mean to say the Good News should be Bad News. But what it should be to an individual at any given moment is something only that individual can discern. There is desolation and consolation in reflecting on scripture. There is no call for smugness, either way,

    Btw, You cited the only proof text I can recall from my Catholic education.

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    1. One more test I forgot to include: If the citation can be followed by "nyah-nyah," it's proof-texting.

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    2. Tom, good point about there being a difference between proof-texting and listening to the word of God.

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    3. "Btw, You cited the only proof text I can recall from my Catholic education"

      While it was made after our formal education has ended, we might put in the same category St. John Paul II's insistence, in Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, that the church is not able to ordain women because Scripture records that Christ chose the apostles only from among men. (The document cites other reasons, but in my view the other reasons trace back to that reason.)

      FWIW, I don't find the Jesus-made-Peter-the-pope reading of that passage completely far-fetched. At the very least, that verse is of a piece with many other passages in the New Testament that make clear that Peter was the leader of the Twelve, who together exercised governance over the Jesus movement after the Ascension and Pentecost. Let's agree that he didn't immediately move into the Lateran palace or wear a tiara.

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    4. Jim, I don't have any problem with the Peter-as-pope passage. St. John Paul II's insistence about women being ontologically incapable of being ordained is another story. Not going to stir that pot at this time, since it is a very deep rabbit hole, I will just say that I think he was reaching for it.

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  5. I guess I will always look at the Bible as a long dialogue between people and God. It's not "proof" of anything. It's evidence of humanity's yearning for righteousness. And sometimes their ability for rationalization and self-justification. It is full of contradictions, and thus a handy bludgeon for greasy little weasels like Jeff Sessions.

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    1. "...greasy little weasel..." Yeah, that shoe fits him pretty well. And the scripture verse he chose doesn't even make a very effective bludgeon. It wouldn't even be understood the way he's using it by most casual readers, let alone serious scholars of scripture.

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    2. "Greasy little weasel" is good, but it is so northern. In the South we say "Jeffy Sessions, bless his little heart." Means the same thing.

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    3. Yes, I have heard that you can get away with saying absolutely dreadful things about people south of Manson-Nixon line if you predicate it with "bless her/his heart."

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  6. Jean: "I guess I will always look at the Bible as a long dialogue between people and God. It's not "proof" of anything. It's evidence of humanity's yearning for righteousness. And sometimes their ability for rationalization and self-justification. It is full of contradictions"

    The older I got, the more study I completed (mostly done on my own), the more I realized that I could not accept the Bible as literally "God's word", or even, perhaps, as "God's" word at all, certainly not literally, and perhaps not even God's word as acquired via indirect "inspiration".

    Unless one counts human attempts to grasp God, grasp God-ness, as "inspired by God".

    "Reading the Bible Again for the First Time" (Marcus Borg) was a big help to me as I tried to clarify my own thinking to myself.

    Borg introduces the various ways the bible has been read and interpreted throughout history. In Chapt 2, he offered his own conclusions, conclusions that I feel come closer to what I believe than what I had always been taught to believe.

    Through the lenses of natural literalism and its modern descendants, the Bible is seen as a divine product (as already emphasized). The inspiration of scripture is understood to mean that God guided the writing of the Bible, directly or indirectly. What scripture says, then, ultimately comes from God.

    The alternative, of course, is to see the Bible as a human product – the product of two ancient communities. This is the lens through which I see scripture. The Hebrew Bible (the Christian Old Testament) is the product of ancient Israel. The New Testament is the product of the early Christian movement. What the Bible says is the words of those communities, not God’s words.”
    – Borg, Markus – Reading the Bible again for the first time: taking the Bible seriously but not literally, pages 21-22.

    I don't have space for the entire quote. Continued in the next comment.

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    1. Marcus Borg, continued

      I see the Bible as a human response to God. Rather than seeing God as scriptures ultimate author, I see the Bible the response of these two ancient communities to their experience of God. As such, it contains their stories of God, their perceptions of God's character and will, their prayers to and praise of God, their perceptions of the human condition and the paths of deliverance, their religious and ethical practices, and their understanding of what faithfulness to God involves. As the product of these two communities, the Bible thus tells US about how they saw things, not about how God sees things.

      The Difference Our Perspective on the Bible
      Makes


      The justifications for seeing the Bible as a human product are compelling, and the case has been made by many writers.2 Most basically, it seems to me that a close and careful reading of the Bible makes it impossible to think that what it says comes directly or indirectly from God. So, rather than making the case that the Bible is a human product, I will offer five illustrations of the difference that these two ways of seeing and reading the Bible make.

      The first illustration is a story. I sometimes listen to Christian radio. One night I was listening to a call-in show about the Bible. and ethical questions. In response to a listener's phone call, the host said, "Let's see what God says about that," and then quoted a passage from the Bible (one that happened to be from Paul). I was a bit stunned by the host's leap from God to scripture, even as I immediately understood it. After all, the host saw what the Bible says as coming from God. But the difference between seeing the Bible as a divine product and seeing it as a human product is apparent in this illustration: Does a passage from Paul tell us what God says or how Paul saw things?


      There is a downloadable pdf of Chapt 2 of Reading the Bible for the first time for those who might want to read more.


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    2. Anne - in one sense, to refer to scripture as "a human product" seems pretty mainstream, at least from a Catholic perspective. A fuller and more accurate statement might be that they are inspired by the Holy Spirit and authored by humans.

      Here is how it is explained in chapter 3 of Dei Verbum, the Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation from Vatican II:

      "In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by him they made use of their powers and abilities, so with him acting in them and through them, they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which he wanted."

      Based on what you excerpted from Marcus Borg, I took away that he doesn't accept the notion of divine inspiration. The Vatican II perspective that I've quoted here is what I accept regarding scripture. I also believe that somehow God's presence is mediated by the proclamation of scripture at mass.

      That said, I agree with what I think Borg may be saying, that as a human record of the people and times from which the bible emerged, it's an important and enriching source. Similarly, the bible can be rewardingly read as an important work of literature (or really, as a collection of literature). But I hold that it is much more than that.

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    3. "God's presence is mediated the proclamation of scripture at mass."

      What does that mean? I am interested in the word "mediated."

      The Spirit can speak through Scripture, of course. Provided you are not otherwise distracted by your kid's misbehavior, the lector's weird outfit, or thoughts about what you're going to make for dinner. All of which I have done.

      On a good day, Scripture at Mass opens up some new insight about what God might want from us.

      But the Spirit, in my experience, also speaks through whatever is at hand.

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    4. Jean - Vatican II taught different ways that God is present during public worship:

      * "In the person of his minister", i.e. the priest
      * "Under the Eucharistic species"
      * "In the sacraments"
      * "In his word, since it is He Himself who speaks when the Holy Scriptures are read in the Church"
      * "When the Church prays and sings, for He promised: 'Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them' (Matt. 18:20)."

      These little snippets are lifted from Sacrosanctum Concilium, the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, no. 7.
      http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html

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    5. I've always thought Matt. 18:20 was an interesting verse.

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    6. Seriously. It is Catholic teaching that God is present in the person of the priest???? That is even worse than I thought. Wow.

      If God is "in the person" of anyone at all, then God is "in the person" of all human beings.

      I believe that God is present at all times, in all places. God is not confined to the "person" of an ordained human being (males only), nor to people singing and praying together, nor in sacraments exclusive to the RCC, nor in bread and wine. God is everywhere. God is not confined to the man-made boxes that a group of human beings have designated to "hold" God - boxes that they control and define. How incredibly arrogant. Talk about making God into their own image. They are not just doing that. They are trying to take God's place.

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    7. I wrote nothing about man-made boxes or controlling God, and neither did that document from Vatican II that I referenced.

      If God is present everywhere, why do you find it "incredibly arrogant" that he could be present with the priest during mass?

      Why is it incredibly arrogant to think that God could be present at a baptism, or Eucharist, or a wedding?

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    8. Jim, I called attention to your list as it seems to define and circumscribe exactly how God is present at Mass. The wording seems to be an attempt to define how and where God is present, limiting it to certain people and places and events.

      You say that at mass God is present IN the person of the priest - not WITH the priest. God IS present at mass, at baptisms, at weddings - but God is also present at family dinners, at work, at the store, and when we are completely alone. God is everywhere present at all times, but generally most of us don't make ourselves aware of God's presence. The one thing formal church services do is focus the attention of people on God's presence.

      But to restrict it to being only during RCC masses and sacramental celebrations, to say God is present "in the person" of the priest, and ignore that God is present in EVERYONE, is a limiting construct - confining God's present to a box if you will. The RCC does not control God's presence. It can merely draw attention to it.

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  7. Katherine, I do not accept the church's excuses for refusing a sacrament to women simply because they are female and not male. The Papal Biblical Commission that studied the issue (among other things) in the 70s did not reach any clear conclusions except to say that they found nothing in the scripture that supports denying ordination to women.

    The teaching is a product of patriarchy. In reading the bible, at times I have been struck at how Jesus tried to get his male disciples to SEE what he was teaching through his actions. Through his interactions with women, who as I have previously noted, were on a par with the donkey, the house, and the other goods owned by men, not to be coveted under Mosaic law (the Ten Commandments). Women were inferior to men and the entire culture accepted that. Jesus did not. But he understood it. He knew that if a woman went wandering around with him and 12 men without a husband or father as chaperone, her reputation would be in tatters, she would be seen as a prostitute, and possibly be in danger for her life. Why did he choose Mary Magdalene then, to spread the word of the Resurrection - he chose a woman to TEACH the male disciples (who were in hiding). Was he not showing that women were also tasked to lead the community of followers? To teach - to even lead and teach the men? Why did he accept Mary of Bethany's presence in the room which was all men except for her when he was teaching his followers what to teach others. Martha adopted the gender approved role - in the kitchen and serving the men. Mary was breaking cultural taboos by remaining in the room with Jesus and a bunch of men. Jesus let her stay because he knew that women would be important to the mission, equal to men in their roles to go out and "teach all nations". He rebuked Martha for her complaints. He didn't tell Mary to stay, but when she chose to, it was clear that he saw her as a leader.

    But, the men, thick as could be, never got it. They were too much products of their culture, their time and place in history. And men wrote the scriptures, men who had not even met Jesus, never heard him teach, who acquired their knowledge of Jesus and his teachings second-hand. Not admissible in court because it was "hearsay".

    The ingrained patriarchy of the scriptures really hit me one morning as I was half dozing through the reading of the Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes for the umpteenth time in my life. Suddenly something broke through my stupor. I sat up and when I got home I checked the scripture to see if I had heard it right. Sure enough - it said that the bread and fishes were enough to feed thousands of people - thousands of human beings - PLUS the women and children. Not fully human enough to count as being among the thousands of "real" people fed.

    Patriarchy - John Paul II was a hopeless patriarch, as was Benedict. Sadly, so is Francis. But, if he is beginning to see the light with sex abuse and bishops and cardinals, maybe he'll have an awakening as regards women at some point, see them as something more than the strawberries on the cake, helpers of men, including helpers of deacons, not permitted to be deacons even though required to go through the formation. Helpers only.

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    1. "The teaching is a product of patriarchy." Anne, yeah, pretty much. I have accepted that this isn't going to change in my lifetime. Maybe by the time my granddaughters are my age, it will be different.

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    2. Here is the problem, as I see it: 1) Without the Christian Scriptures there is no Church and, in contemporary atheistic literature, no anti-religion. We are back with Baal. 2) The Bible also includes the Jewish Scriptures, which are sometimes a problem to the Christians. 3) The Bible as we know it was put together during times of patriarchy by patriarchs. 4) But without them assembling the Bible, we would neither know nor care that Mary of Bethany sat in with the boys when Jesus taught, nor that when the disciples who were sexually qualified to be priests were hiding under their beds, Mary Magdalene and her lady friends sallied forth to do what was needed. Nor that God chose Mary to be mother of his Son instead of having him leap fully grown from the brown of Joseph.

      All of the things that we would otherwise neither know nor care about are available to us because of the patriarchy. That doesn't make patriarchs right all the time, but it does make Christian correction of patriarchy possible.

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    3. Jim, Tom and everyone, I like Marcus Borg's explanation of the bible as a human product AND as "sacred" scripture. I provided a link to the chapter that I quote from in my earlier comment. It is only 9 pages, an easy and quick read. But, I am adding a bit more from this chapter (I am a fast typist, but an entire 9 pages is more than I wish to tackle). Borg describes a different "lens" through which to view the Bible than that usually used in traditional Catholic teaching. It is even more different than the lens through which scripture is viewed by conservative protestant teaching. But, really, it is not really that different when you think about it. And it demonstrates that even though the Bible is a human product, it is also revelation and sacred.

      Using the lens Borg describes actually helps me take the bible more seriously than I did when there was no alternative to seeing it as God's words channeled through human beings. Yes - in one sense they are because the thoughts and interpretations of the ancient Jewish and Christian communities were a response to God's work in the world, in their lives, reflecting God's work in the writers. But I don't think God "dictated" those words, either directly or indirectly.

      The following excerpts are from the same chapter of the book - Reading the Bible for the First Time

      The Bible as Sacrament of the Sacred

      …Thus one major function of the Bible is the shaping of Christian vision and identity…..and is a further aspect of the relationship between the Bible and God. Namely, the Bible is a sacrament of the sacred.

      In the Christian tradition, the word “sacrament” often refers to one of the specific sacraments for Protestants (baptism and eucharist); for Catholics, those two plus five more. Central to the definition of “sacrament” in this particular sense is that something that is sacramental is “a means of grace.” (no quarrel with that, right Jim?)

      …..a sacrament is commonly defined as a mediator of the sacred, a vehicle by which God becomes present, a means through which the Spirit is experienced….Virtually anything can become sacramental: nature, music, prayer, birth, death, sexuality, poetry, persons, pilgrimage….and so forth. Things are sacramental when ,,,,the sacred becomes experiential reality.

      ….to see the Bible as a sacrament of the sacred also connects us back to the Bible as a human product……In worship services of many denominations…..the following words are spoken after the reading of a passage from the Bible: “The Word of the Lord”…….I find the words in the New Zealand Anglican Book of Common Prayer exactly right “Hear what the Spirit is saying to the church.” The Spirit of God speaks through the human words of these ancient documents: the Bible is a sacrament of the sacred.” Pp 32-33

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    4. Borg excerpts continued

      The Bible as the Word of God

      What then does it mean to call the Bible “the Word of God”? It is important to emphasize that the Christian tradition throughout its history has spoken of the Bible as the Word of God (Capital W and singular) not as the words of God (lowercase w and plural”. If it had used the latter phrase, then one might reasonably claim that believing the words of the Bible to be God’s words is intrinsic to being Christian.

      But the use of capital W and the singular suggests…..that “Word” is being used in a metaphorical and nonliteral sense……The Bible is a means of divine self-disclosure. The traditional theological phrase….is “the Bible as the revelation of God”. … In the Bible, Christians find the disclosure of God—not because the Bible is the words of God but because the Bible contains the primary stories and traditions that disclose the character and the will of God.

      Seeing the Bible as the Word of God also underlines its sacramental function: [the Bible}…sometimes becomes the mediator of the sacred whereby the Spirit addresses us in the present….. calling the Bible the Word of God refers not to its origin (emphasis mine) but to its status and function”. Pp 33-34

      ……When one sees Christianity as a sacrament of the sacred, being Christian is not about believing in Christianity. ….To be Christian is to live within the Christian tradition as sacrament and let it do its transforming work within and among us”. P. 35

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  8. I wonder if anyone has ever studied whether there are differences between the way men and women approach Scripture.

    Certainly, there are many women's Bible study programs that focus on women in the Bible. It strikes me that men probably need these programs more.

    There is also considerable variation in the way people interpret what is going on in some of the encounters women have with God and Jesus. What did Jesus really mean--and do--in that showdown with Mary in the parlor and Martha in the kitchen? Luke 10:41

    We'll never know, but it's a scene that offers fruitful contemplation.

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    1. Isn't that kind of what Lectio Divina is about? Not to approach scripture as a text, but as a living word of God. So a passage may speak to different people in different ways.

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    2. Search me. I have the idea that women's interpretations of Scripture tend to be different from men's and, at some periods in the Church, suppressed as borderline heretical or just suspicious. That's why some of the beguines got burned up.

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    3. Now that I have been a regular at the Episcopal parish, with both male and female priests, I KNOW that women often interpret scripture differently than men. The RCC chooses to operate with half a brain by denying women ordination, denying the feminine in God (God made them male AND female in GOD'S image).

      No wonder it gets in so much trouble.

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    4. I used to be an Episcopalian and still sneak back there occasionally. I probably appreciate Episcopalians more now, but they are not without their own troubles.

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