Saturday, February 10, 2018

Endangered species: pro-life Democrats in Congress [Updated 2/12/2018]

First Things, in my view, has been running on fumes for the last nine years, continuing to get by on the goodwill and reputation among religious conservatives that was built up by the periodical's founder, the Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, who passed away in 2009. 


I suppose First Things' contents never have been very appealing to liberal Catholics; but during its heyday under Neuhaus's watch, the publication had a seriousness of purpose, a coherence of content around its mission (fostering ecumenical ties between Catholics and Evangelicals, and bringing those points of commonality to the public square), a certain conservative evangelizing fervor, and standards of excellence.  It identified a niche in the public intellectual landscape, filled it, and for a time it mattered.  I don't think it matters much anymore; in fact, speaking as a Catholic with some conservative tendencies, I find that it's hard to take it very seriously these days.  I now give it a miss for long periods of time.

Most recently it pinged my radar when it published a seminary professor's review of a book about the Edgardo Mortara affair.  Mortara was a Jewish child in Bologna in the 19th century who was snatched away from his family and raised by the papal household because the child had been secretly baptized by a Catholic servant.  The reviewer accords the papal police and Pius IX a good deal more sympathy than most accounts do.  To be candid, the review kindles concern both for what First Things is publishing and what seminaries are teaching these days.  The review triggered cries of outrage, which prompted the periodical's editor, RR Reno, to defend, not very persuasively in my opinion, his decision to print the review.

There is a certain grief one feels when one sees a once-well-tended structure that has been allowed to deteriorate.  So I was heartened to read a blog post by law professor John Murdock on the First Things website that makes a point that needs to be made: the alarming reduction, nearly to extinction, of elected Democratic officials who are pro-life.

Murdock tells us that, based on recent voting patterns, there are only three pro-life Democrats left in the US House of Representatives.  One, Henry Cuellar, represents a Texas district along the Mexican border.  The district of another, Collin Peterson, is essentially the western half of the state of Minnesota and would seem to be Fargo country.   The third, Dan Lipinski, is the subject of Murdock's post.

Lipinski's district is one of the jigsaw puzzle pieces that comprise congressional districting in the greater Chicago area.  Its northeastern corner is anchored in the Bridgeport neighborhood on Chicago's South Side.  Bridgeport is the historically Irish Catholic stomping grounds of the Mayors Daley and innumerable other Chicago and Cook County elected officials and government employees for the last century.  From Bridgeport, the district runs due southwest, encompassing Chicago Southwest Side neighborhoods such as Beverly and Mt. Greenwood, and West and Southwest suburbs such as Berwyn, Brookfield, Oak Lawn and Palos Hills.  It stretches all the way to Lemont and Lockport, brushing the edge of Joliet.

These neighborhood and suburban communities fall into different demographic categories, but on the whole, this is a working class, and notably Catholic, district.  According to the district's Wikipedia page, in 24 of the last 25 elections it has elected a Democrat.  In a way, the district is a throwback to  a couple of generations ago, when Catholic working people were the backbone of the Democratic Party.  And Lipinski's politics reflect that heritage: he's a relatively conservative Democrat and a social conservative.

That puts Lipinski out of step with today's Democratic Party.  And party activists have taken note: he's being primaried by Marie Newman.  A successful business person and community activist who apparently has not previously held political office, Newman seems representative of the wave of Democratic first-time candidates, many of them women, who have been spurred to civic engagement by Donald Trump's election.  Murdock reports that Newman has the support of Emily's List, NARAL Pro-Choice America and Kirsten Gillibrand. 

Newman, as a pro-choice Democratic candidate, is typical now, but it wasn't always so.  Murdock notes that, when the Hyde Amendment was first passed by the House in 1976, the final version was approved with the votes of 151 House Democrats.   At that time, during the run-up to Jimmy Carter's election and in the wake of the Watergate scandal, Democrats held 291 seats in the House, a 2/3 majority. 

The party alignments around abortion were different then.   Many Democrats were pro-life, in no small part because of the importance and influence of Catholics in the party.  Republicans were more pro-choice than they are now, in part because there was actually a moderately liberal wing in the GOP in those days, and in part because some Republicans viewed abortion as a matter of personal choice and privacy.  Republican Gerald Ford, who was president when the Hyde Amendment first passed the House, was pro-choice.  Murdock reports that Democrat Jimmy Carter, who was elected later that year and took office the following January, supported the Hyde Amendment.

The party realignment around abortion, at least on the Democratic side, seems to be nearly complete now.  Lipinski is only 51 years old, but politically, as a pro-life Democrat, he's a dinosaur.   And that's bad news.  My point of view on this is not secret: I am pro-life.  I think pro-life policies are best for children, best for women, and best for communities and the country.  The pro-life movement is better off when it can count on significant support from members of both parties.

And I would also argue that the parties, including the Democratic Party, are better off when they pitch tents that are big and wide enough to accommodate pro-life voters.  For the last few years, Republican electoral dominance has been at a historic high tide.  Not only do Republicans control the White House and both houses of Congress, but they also hold record or near-record numbers of governors' mansions and state legislatures.  This dominance is difficult to square with public-opinion polling, which has shown for the last decade or more that the public holds the GOP in relatively low esteem.  It seems to me that the loyalty of pro-life voters is a main ingredient of the Republicans' electoral secret sauce.  It's almost certainly a key reason that Hillary Clinton lost to a candidate who has turned out to be one of the least popular presidents in history.

But the trend in the Democratic Party is running contrary to my advice at the moment.  The energy is on the left, and the left is univocally pro-choice.  Unfortunately for Dan Lipinski, that pro-choice energy may push him into the tar pit.

UPDATE 2/12/2018: Another conservative journal, National Review, has picked up on the Lipinski race.  This one compares it to the Illinois governor's race, about which I may blog in another day or two.  The author of the NR piece, Mary Hallan FioRito, is described as "an attorney and is the Cardinal Francis George Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center."






29 comments:

  1. You have just clearly described the symptoms of Democratic brain death. The levels of hypocrisy back and forth on this issue are truly amazing. For instance Planned Parenthood is one of the favorite charities of the wealthy Republicans on Palm Beach who voted for Trump. But we are talking of Democratic hypocrisy.

    The golden calf (timely in today's readings) is enforced in the Democratic Party because some knuckleheads reason thusly: 1. There are more women voters than men. 2. Women voters, to a woman, want control of their bodies. 3. If we promise that, we have them, and that gives us a majority.

    Brilliant. But, oh by the way, who has the majorities in the House and Senate?

    Within living memory one could not be a Republican in good standing if one were not whole-heartedly committed to balancing the federal budget. (An exception as always available for miracle tax cuts that pay for themselves, but a balanced budget amendment came right after the Pledge of Allegiance.) Then, in one night, the Republican majorities added more to the deficit than 16 years of the Clinton and Obama presidencies did.

    In politics, principles come and principles go. I am not sure there is a cure for being brain dead, but if there is, it is in the principle just stated.

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  2. The central problem is that Democrats once represented the economic interests of the working class.

    The realignment that has taken place is both Democrats and Republicans now represent the interests of economic elites. So false battles about culture issues have replaced economic issues, and politics has become more like a religion rather than practical economic issues.

    Bernie Sanders has attempted to return politics to economic issues, e.g. taxing the rich, limiting campaign contributions, supporting free college education, unions, etc. While he is the most popular politician in the country Democrat politicians are not rallying behind him. He has been willing to let cultural war issues take a back seat to economic ones e.g. support of prolife politicians who strong on the economic issues. But there are not many of them.

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    1. Jack, the problem is that the working class has been fed so much, er, nonsense that it doesn't recognize its interests. Obama did a lot (not enough, but a lot) to appeal to the interests of the working class, and what did he get for his trouble? Votes for Trump. But no one can say universal health care would be a victory for the plutocrats, and Obama manfully moved the ball upfield against well-heeled plutocratic tools like Boehner and McConnell.

      No, Obama didn't go the full Monte. It was hard enough to push he brain dead as far as he did. And he did not -- as TR would have done -- tell the peasants to gather at Big Pharma with their pitchforks. Pitchforks were not his style. Bernie looks better now, but he never had to go mano-a-mano with the Kentucky mushmouth.

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  3. Re: First Things; I couldn't believe someone actually was defending the church's handling of the Edgardo Mortara affair, in the 21st Century. As a parent I always found that whole thing horrifying. And Reno pretty well took a dive into some kind of kool-aid quite a while back.
    I see that the author of the book was a professor at St. John's Seminary, Boston. I am not familiar with that seminary. The seminarians from here pretty much attend Conception, Missouri for undergraduate, and then Kenrick-Glennon in St. Louis. I haven't so far noticed a lot of retro formation coming out of either of those. FWIW, the Priestly Society of St. Peter (specializing in the Tridentine Latin Mass) opened a seminary in Denton, Nebraska in 2000. But I know of no priests ordained for the Omaha Archdiocese who got their formation there. My guess is we're too liberal for anyone inclined that direction.
    I shared previously that I used to receive a gift subscription to First Things from my dad. Long story short, Dad and I both decided this year that it wasn't worth the subscription price anymore.

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    1. When the king partook of divinity his screw-ups were blamed on sycophantic aides. There is a lot of that even in the early Patriot literature of the 1750s. When the pope screws up there have to be sycophatic aides to point out that, "rightly considered" (there is a Michael Novak weasel term), what he did was right and proper.

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  4. Jim, you are right about pro-life Democrats being an endangered species. As you point out, it didn't used to be that way. The polarization between the Republicans and the Democrats on the issue seems like a proxy war, because nothing much has changed in the 40 something years since Roe vs Wade; through multiple administrations of either party.
    Here is an interesting article indicating a lot of overlap between pro-life and pro-choice. 70% of those polled for the study said the term "pro-choice" defined them somewhat, while 65% said the term "pro-life" describes them. How people favor the degree of restriction or lack of restriction probably accounts for that seeming contradiction. An example; I identify as definitely pro-life. However, to save the life of the mother is where I overlap with pro-choice. It is a moot point at my age, but I would pray that I wouldn't sacrifice the life of my child to save my own life. However, I couldn't insist that someone else be a martyr(I realize that I am not using the term in a theologically correct way). And usually in those situations it isn't a matter of saving one or the other life. If the mother's life is in danger, so is the baby's. And it would be a matter of saving neither of them, such as this case in Phoenix a few years back. It would be good if the political parties, particularly the Democrats, could acknowledge the overlap and live in the tension a bit.

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    1. I identify as neither. I could live with a routine ban on abortion with fairly liberal exceptions for circumstances that a doctor could justify as "injurious" without running afoul of the law. I could also live with a legal ban on women convicted of abuse and neglect by reason of indifference, addiction, or insanity ever being allowed to keep a baby. That will never fly, though.

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  5. Bernie was roundly criticized for supporting a pro-life Dem in, what, Iowa? One issue voters on both sides of the debate are a bane of our political landscape.

    I will never be a "no abortion ever, let mothers die instead" pro-lifer. And I will never be an "abortion any time, any place, any reason" pro-choicer. Neither is abortion my first or only consideration when voting, which is one of the many things that makes me a piss poor Catholic.

    Those of us who see gray areas when it comes to this issue--and I think that's most Americans if not most Catholics--are put off by the rhetoric from both parties.

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    1. The candidate that Bernie supported was Keith Mello from Omaha. Both were roundly excoriated by the Demo powers that be.

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    2. Yes, thank you. Do you know how that race turned out? Or is Mellow running this year?

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    3. I got his first name wrong. It is Heath, not Keith. He was formerly a member of the state legislature, and ran for mayor of Omaha against incumbent Jean Stothert in 2017. He lost, but had a respectable showing, over 46%. Seems kind of odd that Bernie would bother with a mayoral race in flyover country, but maybe figured he would encourage a Democratic candidate. As far as I know Mello isn't running for anything right now.

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    4. Jean, thank you - you speak for me. I think you speak for many. But I'm not sure that the many will ever be heard in this debate.

      Those of us who see gray areas when it comes to this issue--and I think that's most Americans if not most Catholics--are put off by the rhetoric from both parties.

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    5. Thanks for the update, Katherine. Bernie has that grassroots movement going--Raber has been paying more attention--and he has been encouraging younger people to run for local races, hence a mayor in flyover country. He has also been quite un-doctrinaire about different flavors" of Democrats, pushing working class interests over the identity politics.

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  6. I'm trying to frame this political problem in my mind. I would say that the political prioritization of the abortion question on both sides has strongly contributed to the advance of oligarchy, concentration of wealth and power, destruction of unions, loss of good journalism and weakening of democratic habits. Of course, Trump is the pustule giving evidence of the underlying infection. IMO it points to the need for multiple parties. I would vote for a prolife socialist party in a femtosecond. Then parties could cooperate on the things they agree on and fight on the things they don't. This might then allow us to resolve different questions more independently of each other.

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    1. "Trump is the pustule..." Good description, Stanley.

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    2. "I would say that the political prioritization of the abortion question on both sides has strongly contributed to the advance of oligarchy, concentration of wealth and power, destruction of unions, loss of good journalism and weakening of democratic habits."

      How do you figure that?

      I think that candidates pandering to voters for whom this is the primary issue, pro or con, set themselves up as obnoxious paragons of Truth and Freedom, no middle road. But how it does all that other stuff you mention escapes me.

      Yes, I agree about multiple parties generally.

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    3. Oh, I guess I would say that Trump's impassioned rhetoric re "ripping babies out of the womb" at the last prez debate may have helped cover the fact with some umdiscerning voters that his behavior heretofore has contributed to the casual sex scene that helps keep the abortion mills in biz.

      How that performance squares with his throwing out wives when they get old and/or fat, or feeling free to squeeze their parts like avocados at the grocery store, or defending a staffer who beat up two wives is beyond me.

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    4. Well, with that and cryptoracism, the abortion battle gave the Republicans the votes and the power to push their real agenda which is all of the above. It gave the Democrats something they could sell while themselves selling out to neoliberalism. That's how I see it, anyway.

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  7. Thanks to all for these comments. I'll offer a couple of additional thoughts:

    I understand folks being fed up with, and exhausted by, the culture wars. They've been going on throughout our adult lives, and I don't think any of us, at least among the regular contributors and commenters, is a spring chicken. I recall that Cathleen Kaveny tried a few years ago to draw folks back to the notion of the common good as a way to re-focus our politics away from culture-war issues. (It may not have been in Commonweal; I just spent a few minutes looking through the website but couldn't find the article I was thinking about.)

    The problem with the exhortation to just think about something other than abortion, is that it seems the electorate is not on board with that program. Culture-war issues, and especially abortion, show a lot of resilience. Consider the extraordinary set of circumstances around getting a successor appointed for Justice Scalia. The Republicans declined to even *consider* President Obama's nominee. On the eve of a presidential election, that seemed a big role of the dice - but it worked out well for Republicans. One wonders whether any justice will ever be approved again when the White House and the Senate are controlled by different parties - at least so long as the Court's ideological tilt hangs in the balance. When it comes to Supreme Court succession, we seem to be in the midst of a game of "Who will die first?"

    I also don't think it's true that the Roe v Wade decision, and its successor decisions, has completely preempted politics when it comes to abortion. There are questions of viability in the womb, government funding, government regulation of clinics, and many other aspects of abortion to fight about. In Illinois, the incumbent Republican, a social moderate, is being primaried from the right because he signed a bill that increased state government funding for abortions.

    Finally, there is the question of purity tests. Of course, both parties engage in purity tests. The pledges that Grover Norquist and others of his ilk insist that GOP congressmen sign not to raise taxes or increase the deficit is a conservative instance of a purity test. Rand Paul singlehandedly shut down the government for a few hours this past weekend because he thought that Republicans weren't being sufficiently pure about deficit spending.

    I daresay that most of us wish that purity tests would be administered within conservative politics against white supremacists. And it's interesting that Democrats apparently are subjecting their officials to purity tests about the abuse of women, but Republicans apparently aren't, at least not as a general rule.

    When it comes to abortion, Democrats administer purity tests, but Republicans don't. I think it's regrettable that Democrats who are pro-life are subjected to purity tests about women's choice, and are subject to marginalization when they fail the tests. I believe it hurts the party, and it certainly hurts the pro-life cause.

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  8. The Rs have their own litmus tests. Did you see the NRA toadies on 60 Minutes last night? They were pushing reciprocity on concealed carry licenses, so if I am in a state that allows me to carry a gun without any demonstrating that I know which end the bullet comes out (there are such states; I live in one), I can stroll the streets of Chicago, legally, with a Glock on my hip. Well, this one clown says, that allows him to protect himself and his family. OK. And 37,000 people had to die of gunshots (including on oneself) last year so he can protect himself -- if he ever needs to and if he can ever get his gun out before the guy who is threatening, and if he can hit a billboard while the testosterone is pumping (even cops have trouble doing that). He must be pretty damn important if 37,000 people have to die so he can feel that his family is safe.

    Anyhow, the Ds are cowed by the NRA, but the Rs have to believe all that crap. And they also have to believe in that unicorn that no one has ever seen -- the tax cut that pays for itself. And now they also have to believe that this country can be made great again by a four-flusher.

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    1. Yep. You're probably right that the NRA is the gold standard for purity tests, and the envy of every other special interest group.

      One story line about the recent brace of government shutdowns is that immigration activists motivated Democrats to shut it down for a few days, after which Democrats checked some public opinion surveys, re-opened the government, and kicked the immigration can down the road for a couple of weeks. And then, last week, Democrats came up with a bargain that keeps the government open but doesn't do anything about Dreamers or immigration in general, but does extract a promise from Senate Republicans to consider those issues. It seems that McConnell is keeping his end of of the deal, but I suppose the smart money will say that whatever, if anything, gets worked out in the Senate will die in the House. It will be interesting to watch the intraparty dynamics to see if any Democrats pay a price for that alleged cave-in.

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  9. The conservative pro-life side also needs to learn to live with some "tension". It was a Catholic bishop who excommunicated the nun who voted in favor of the abortion to save the mother's life in Arizona, when it was not possible to save both. If the abortion had not been done, both lives would have been lost. The RCC permits removal of an ectopic pregnancy, and has to twist itself into pretzels to defend that while condemning an abortion to save a woman’s life before a fetus can survive outside the uterus.
    The pro-life movement doesn't admit to any ambiguity and wants to impose its own religious understanding on every American - that a human life entitled to all the protections of a born human being exists at the moment of conception, in a single cell called a zygote. Most Americans don't consider a zygote to be a human being. The Catholic church is also pushing the notion that the pill is an abortifacient. So it has worked to prevent women from having affordable access to the most reliable forms of birth control, imposing its own religious teachings on the entire country.
    Conflating abortion and birth control is not a way to bring more people into the pro-life camp. Also, making access to reliable birth control more expensive could very well push up the abortion rate.
    The church's own teachings on abortion have varied during its history. Although it was generally condemned, even in the first couple of centuries of the church, the understandings changed as to how serious a sin it was. Augustine followed Aristotle's notion that a fetus was not human until "quickening'. Aquinas also followed Aristotle’s notions, designating three stages of prenatal development, saying that the fetus was not a "full" human being until ensoulment. He placed this at 40 days for males and 80 days for females (misogny again). He never defended abortion at any stage (natural law), but the sin did not become 'homicide" until ensoulment took place.
    Now the church teaches that ensoulment occurs at conception. There are many scientific and theological questions raised by this teaching and most people outside the Catholic church (and many in it) don't believe this. Several prominent 20th century theologians also dissented from this view: Within the past few decades, a number of Catholic theologians have raised questions about the moral status of the human zygote and early embryo. Richard McCormick describes the embryo during the first two weeks as "nascent human life" but does not consider it an "individual human life" until later;1 Charles Curran concurs, stating that "truly human life" comes into being two to three weeks after fertilization;2 Albert DiIanni proposes that the bodily continuity of a human existence begins only several weeks after conception;3 and Karl Rahner asserts that during the first few weeks the existence of a human subject is seriously doubtful.4
    http://www.kingscollege.net/gbrodie/Outline%20Part%20V%20A%201b%20-%20Tauer.html
    It seems that if both sides would compromise just a bit, a reasonable limit might be possible. The politically cynical phony proposal for 20 weeks failed. It would be nice if so-called pro-life Republicans could work WITH Democrats towards a compromise. Ideally the US would move to 12 weeks or even 8 (except to save the mother’s life), as is typical of most western nations. Most abortions occur during the first 8 weeks. Start with the potentially possible, and recognize that not everyone shares the same religious beliefs that a full human being exists at the moment of conception.
    Also, the pro-life movement needs to stop attacking those who say they are personally pro-life, but are politically pro-choice as far as not making abortion a crime, in order to respect the beliefs of all Americans.
    Educate. Respect the notion that others don’t share ALL the religious views of Catholics and some evangelical Christians. Progress has been made and will continue to be made.

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    1. "The conservative pro-life side also needs to learn to live with some "tension"."

      Anne - politically, I think they do live with the tension. The example that springs readily to mind is Obamacare. When the legislation was being crafted, the bishops let it be known that they wouldn't oppose Obamacare as long as it abided by the provisions of the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment, as you probably know, is a very long way from a pro-life absolutist position; it simply stipulates things for which federal funds can't be used. The bishops' position amounted to a vote for the status quo (in which, needless to say, abortion is still widely available). Most likely, the bishops viewed their position as being one of political compromise; they support universal health care, and what came to be known as Obamacare got us a good deal closer to that dream. The bishops essentially were looking for a way to prevent the toxic topic of abortion from derailing that possibility.

      As events unfolded, Obamacare was set to *not* abide by the provisions of the Hyde Amendment - and nearly didn't become law because of that divergence from the status quo; it wasn't until President Obama promised Bart Stupak that Obama would issue an executive order that made Hyde Amendment provisions applicable to Obamacare that Stupak was able to give Nancy Pelosi the votes she needed to pass the legislation.

      That is not to say that some pro-life activists wouldn't like to be more absolutist. There are a lot of different streams of pro-life activism, and they vary on goals and strategies.

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    2. It's not just the bishops. The GOP has an abortion litmus test just as the Democrats do - I don't think they would actively support candidates who would even hint at a compromise. Although maybe they would, since they cynically proposed the 20 week limit in order to get Democrats on record as voting against it.

      This is in addition to the gun litmus test. Although I re-registered Independent about 8 or 10 years ago, my husband is still on the GOP rolls. Campaign literature before primaries has already started arriving and "I will defend your 2nd Amendment rights" is front and center along with "pro-life", even though they don't support measures that might help women choose to have a baby. The gun stuff was not part of the front and center GOP candidate literature until the last several years. And it makes me sick to my stomach that they won't consider even modest gun control measures. I don't know what has happened to this country. We have two parties of extremes. Jim Wallis of Sojourners wrote an article this month about being politically homeless as a christian. I agree with what he says.

      https://sojo.net/magazine/march-2018/time-moral-movement

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  10. Have said it before and will say again; abortion clinics routinely and voluntarily put women through a waiting period and counseling process in the 1970s after Roe. They had the names and numbers of hotlines and pro-life groups who would come and get any woman who decided not to have the procedure. There was also birth control counseling to ensure abortions would not be repeated.

    I have no idea how abortion clinics run now, but my guess is that there is no such give and take with the pro-life groups. Clinic workers likely feel more beleaguered and want women patients in and out as quickly as possible to avoid protesters. That reduces care and attention. My guess, also, is that they are less able to attract any but the most vehemently pro-choicers to work there, and the message that "you don't have to do this, have you looked at other options?" is likely pretty muted.

    "Morning after" and abortion pills are "solutions" to abortion clinics that allow women to avoid the hassle of the clinic. And force them to go through a pretty grim treatment by themselves. Having had two miscarriages, I simply cannot imagine this.

    Radicalization on one side ramps up radicalization of the other side.

    None of of the "purity" that Jim talks about has been good for women caught with problem pregnancies. Most women in this situation do not fit the narratives either side has written for them. But feeling pure sure makes the sanctimonious on both sides of the debate feel great!

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  11. Even that revered
    saint of scientism, Carl Sagan, considered a ban after 12 weeks reasonable because of the beginning of electrical activity in the brain. I think this would have been a reasonable compromise but for the purists on both sides. I still consider abortion before 12 weeks to be a creepy thing to do, but not murder.

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    1. Yes, men often want to approach this in some scientific or empirical way, which is why many of them do not understand a woman's reluctance to have an early abortion, or who freak out over an abortion over 12 weeks. It's all about time frames and developmental phases to them.

      I can't speak for all women, but when when you get pregnant, you understand fetal life in ALL phases at once. You think of a growing blob of cells, a baby, a toddler, a teenager, an adult, and an old person. (It's like time travel!) You understand an abortion or miscarriage does not stop a fetus at a certain stage of development, but ends a human possibility.

      I don't agree with everything the Church has decided to do with that theologically, but I do think the Church recognizes the way women might see fetal life and honors it.

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    2. Well, now that I'm caring for an aged parent, I must admit that I can't help but look at babies and toddlers without projecting forward to think of them in old age. How strange the journey of life.

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    3. One time when my son was about three, he wanted my dad to run around and play with him. I explained Grampa was old and frail, and he couldn't do those things. My son said, "Well, can he play with me when he's a little boy again?"

      I never quite understood what was going on in his head, but I was touched that he saw my dad as a whole person, and not just a sick old man.

      He had no problem imagining my dad at various ages all at once, perhaps.

      Take care of yourself as well as your aged parent. That is a long hard slog.

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