Tuesday, May 25, 2021

A listening session with a bishop

The Holy See's announcement of a new synodal process which includes intra-diocesan consultations reminded me that I once sat in on a listening session with a bishop.

 Pope Francis seems to be capturing the attention and the imagination of Catholics with his announcement of a new three-part preparatory phase for a 2023 synod on synodality in the church.  Massimo Faggioli considers that this development could become  "the most important ecclesial event in global Catholicism since Vatican II".  Jack provides a good summary and some commentary here at NewGathering.

The Holy See has announced that, before the bishops gather in Rome in 2023, each individual diocese must undertake a consultation phase, to begin this October, in which each diocesan bishop meets with the baptized in his diocese to get their input.  After those diocesan sessions, the dioceses' inputs are consolidated at a national level; and then the bishops are to meet as continental groups to further discuss the topic at hand.

Much more could be said about each of these phases.  For the purpose of this post, I'd like to focus on the initial, diocesan phase.

I'll confess that my initial reaction, upon hearing that Francis is calling for consultations in each diocese, was cynical: that bishops may be tempted to "stack the deck" by filtering out of the process any voices which don't reinforce their predetermined agendas and conclusions. 

But then I remembered something which softened my cynicism.  I have seen diocesan consultation at work, at least once.  It must have happened at least six years ago, because Cardinal George, who died in 2015, was the bishop who consulted the faithful of our diocese.

I don't recall the circumstances which led to George initiating that consultation.   I don't believe it was to prepare for a synod.  It may have been pursuant to something the national conference was doing, or it may have been George's initiative just for the Chicago Archdiocese.

The topic of that meeting wasn't synodality; it was the clerical sexual abuse of minors.

I was invited because our parish staff had been invited.  It seems this particular consultation was to be with parish staffs from our local suburban area.  My vague recollection was that George wished to meet with a variety of stakeholder groups.  

(If he met separately with deacons, I don't think I ever heard of it.  At any rate, I never was part of a diaconate consultation with George on the problems of clerical sexual abuse.)

My recollection was that this particular consultation was pulled together pretty hastily.  Someone from our parish office reached out to me that morning (it may even have been early afternoon) to ask if my wife and I would be interested in attending the event later that afternoon, at a parish a couple of suburbs over.  We decided to attend.  

As I recall, a few parish staffs, including ours, were fairly well-represented at the gathering. Other parishes had only one or two members there, while others had none at all.  The attendees ran the gamut of parish staff: clergy, music directors, religious ed directors, human concerns directors, various coordinators and parish secretaries.  

I describe this to make my first key observation: this was not a hand-picked group selected to arrive at a predetermined outcome.  The invitation, as best as I can recall, was extended to all parish staff in our suburban area, and those who were able to come, did.  

In point of fact, if George had wanted to put his thumb on the scale by way of selecting only friends and sycophants, parish staff members likely would not have been the stakeholder group he would have reached out to.  The parish staff members around here tend to be fairly progressive.  I don't remember many staff members I've known over the years losing much love for George during his tenure.  

The evening began rather conventionally: someone led us in prayer; someone from the host parish welcomed us; someone from the archdiocese explained what these listening sessions were about.  

And then, pretty quickly, the floor was yielded to us, the participants.  Whether there were some questions to stimulate thought and conversation, I don't clearly recall, but everyone had a chance to speak up.  A variety of opinions and points of view were offered.  As may be expected for this topic, many of the opinions were strongly held and emotionally expressed.  

During this part of the evening it came to light that at least a couple of the attendees had been, as minors, victims of sexual abuse by members of the clergy.   They shared their stories of being abused.  One of them, as I recall, had not publicly shared her story of abuse until she spoke up during that session.  Their witness was riveting, and wrenching, and dismaying, and made me feel almost physically ill.

The juxtaposition of these victims' circumstances made an impression on me: despite being abused by clergy, not only were these survivors still affiliated with the church, but actually were serving the church as staff members - essentially as ministers.  I wasn't - still am not - completely sure how to understand it.  I am open to the possibility that it is a sign of grace.

I don't recall anyone at this session seeking to minimize the problem of abuse, or to defend the indefensible.  Some of the folks who spoke up were quite angry about clerical abuse: that it happened, that it had been covered up, that abusers had been reassigned to other parishes where they abused again.  They didn't stay silent - they said what was on their minds and in their hearts. 

George sat and listened attentively.  He didn't interrupt; he didn't grow defensive; he didn't argue with anyone; he didn't seek to discredit anyone's views or opinions.  My impression was that he was there to learn what was on people's minds.

That is my second key point: George didn't try to steer the people to an institution-friendly view.  To his credit, at the listening session he mostly listened, seemingly with an open mind.

I don't know if NewGathering readers knew Cardinal George.  I had interacted with him a very little bit over the course of his years in Chicago, and of course I knew whatever the mainstream media reported about him.  I was one of his clergy, one of many.  I am sure he could not have remembered my name on the rare occasions we met, which was a good thing for me - it meant I wasn't a troublemaker.  Although I didn't know him well, I'd like to think I had the measure of the man.  He was, in some ways, an old-school prelate: very much a hierarch.  In the normal course of running the diocese, he had strong and inflexible views, which he didn't hesitate to express.  He wasn't particularly collaborative in dealing with the deacons: he was the boss and we were the subordinates, and it was his way or the highway.  He didn't suffer fools gladly.  He would get impatient whenever his clergy didn't know things he thought we should know (which, in the case of deacons, was frequently!).

I offer this very brief character sketch to impress upon the reader how notable it was that, on this evening, George simply sat and listened, and didn't offer any corrections (among the priests of the archdiocese, it was a witticism to refer to him - only behind his back - as "Francis the Corrector").  Silently listening to subordinates, some of whom said provocative or controversial things, would not have come naturally to him.

At the end of the evening, George thanked everyone for their participation and contributions.  He said a few words reiterating the church's determination to root out sexual abuse, and that the church's first concern on this topic was the well-being of victims.  He asked a member of his staff who was with him that evening to buttonhole the two abuse survivors before they left, to offer opportunities for one-to-one additional sessions.

I don't know whether anything came of this particular session.  George himself did not have a spotless record when it came to abuse occurring under his watch; he failed, on at least a couple of notorious occasions, to uphold the standards he had led the charge to put into place in Dallas back in the early 2000s.  He also handled some other accusations by the book, so his record was a bit mixed.  We saw a side of him on that evening in which he seemed sincerely to care about the victims and to wish to tend to their well-being. 

I offer this anecdote in case it may serve as as a sign of hope for anyone inclined to be cynical, as I was at first, about the prospects of the diocesan consultations leading up to the 2023 synod of bishops.  On the evening I attended a listening session, I thought the bishop really was listening.

13 comments:

  1. Jim, that is impressive. Of course I didn't know Cardinal George, but it says something about him that he was willing to sit and listen like that. It also says something about the participants, that they were willing to sit and listen to one another, that no one tried to hijack or dominate the conversation. Sometimes there is an advantage to having a reputation as an old school bishop who didn't suffer fools gladly, maybe it kept the participants on their good behavior.

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    1. Katherine, yes. George could definitely be intimidating, but as the evening wore on, the depth of people's feelings about the topic at hand gave them the courage to speak up anyway. At least, that is how I recall it. At any rate, parish staff members, at least the veterans, tend to be a good deal less awed by the presence of the clergy than many people in the pews are :-)

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  2. Jim, a few questions come to mind. If George really wanted input, why was this meeting arranged on such short notice? Was the last minute timing meant to minimize attendance? Was it all simply a show to create an impression of concern on the part of a man who had coldly refused to act when told of McCormack’s abuse of boys? A show meant to make it appear that he cared about the abuse even though he had not reported it to the police and had not followed the recommended procedures?

    His lack of concern had been the SOP of bishops - protect the priest and the institution, not the abused. His lack of engagement with those speaking at this hastily arranged meeting could indicate that the whole thing was a charade intended to burnish his own reputation and make it appear to the worker bees that he really did “care” - perhaps so they would defend his reputation in the parishes.

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    1. Anne, re: the haste with which the meeting came together: the simple answer is, I don't know why it was handled that way. An explanation may have been offered that evening, but if so, I don't remember what it was. You may be right: it may have been an exercise in window dressing. Or there could be a few other, more innocent explanations: it may be that George's schedule opened up at the last minute to they tried to pull the session together quickly. It's also possible that it had been planned ahead of time, but nobody at my parish reached out to me until the very last minute. (That last possibility is entirely plausible!)

      I think, too, if this all was simply for show, it would have been handled differently. The media would have been alerted, the guest list would have been more controlled, and I don't think the open and honest exchanges of views would have been permitted.

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  3. Thomas Doyle refused to go along with the SOP of the hierarchy and destroyed his own “career” in the church. Here is his report on C. George ( and his predecessors). I knew that Dallas was a sham when the bishops went right ahead and elected George to the top spot only a few months after the truth came out about his protection of McCormack.

    https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/doyle-rebuts-cardinal-george-regarding-chicago-abuse-files

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  4. Thanks, Jim, for a good description of one listening process on the diocesan level. I will share two listening sessions on the sexual abuse problem that were conducted more than a decade apart (the first around 2004, the second after the PA Grand Jury) in the same parish by the same (liberal?) pastor using (liberal?) listening procedures.

    The pastor was a scripture scholar at the seminary, the parish is know for its liturgy and social justice concerns. It is the location of our Commonweal Local Community which is featured in its bulletin along with many other contemporary concerns issues.

    The procedure used for the listening is one widely used in this diocese and others. The aim is for everyone to be able to express their ideas, feelings and emotions in small groups. Those are summarized by a reporter for each group, and placed on story boards for everyone to see. The idea is for everyone to have their say and to be sure that individuals do not dominate the meeting with their concerns. So no one is allowed more than a two or three minutes at the end to express their concerns. Sounds fair and impartial, but how it works out in practice is another matter.

    At the first meeting I happened to sit with a clinical psychologist whom I had never met before. She had experience in both counseling victims and priest abusers (mild ones who had crossed boundaries like inappropriate words or slight touches). I had extensive data on sexual abuse, both victims and perpetrators, and the staggering cost of sexual abuse treatment in our country mental health system. Each of us could have easily given a fifteen minutes presentation that would have riveted the audience that would easily have led to an hour’s question and answer discussion. But the whole procedure is designed to be sure that such lay leadership does not emerge.

    If it had emerged the meeting could easily have resulted in the formation of a parish task group that would have looked at the broader picture of sexual abuse in our society that would have been led by lay people not the pastoral staff. While both the woman psychologist and I were horrified by what went on in the church we both had a much broader psychological and sociological perspective. While both of us would have held the church to transparency and accountability neither of us was out to get the church. We both saw the broader societal problem as being more important than church management issues.

    Synodal processes need to be about more than listening. They have to allow real lay leadership, grounded in our interests in our families, communities, professions to emerge in the church environment.

    A decade later the same parish, the same pastoral staff went through the same process. I told them before of my concerns from the session ten years ago. They did not even remember that session. They were solely focused on going through the same listening process again. Nothing happened as a result just as little had happened in the intervening decade.

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    1. Jack, re: nothing happening as a result of the session: it may depend on the goal of the session. As you describe it, it sounds like an opportunity for parishioners to express their views to the parish staff. If the parish staff came away with a clearer understanding of what is on parishioners' minds, then perhaps the goal was achieved.

      FWIW: after I posted the original post, I recalled that one of George's last acts was to "open the files" - to make public whatever abuse cases hadn't previously hadn't been shared with the public. The release of those records dominated the news cycle for a day or two. It made for disconcerting reading: our local suburban newspaper culled the cases which had happened in the readership area, and over the course of the years and decades, there were very few parishes in this area which hadn't had credible cases of abuse reported. One parish, adjoining ours, seemed to have three different priests living in the rectory during a two year period in the 1980s, all of whom had accusations against them. (Whether their assignments completely overlapped during that period, I am not certain.) Of course, whether the files were *completely* opened, I can't say with certainty.

      My thought is that these sessions may have been related to that action by George in some way.

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  5. FWIW, I made some minor revisions to the original post, and added a comment: I was struck that evening that the two survivors of abuse who had offered their personal testimony that evening, had stayed connected with the church, and in fact worked for the church. I suppose it illustrates that every survivor has her/his own story and journey.

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  6. A question which is sort of related to input from laity; reading about the controversy over right wing firebrand Fr. James Altman being asked by his bishop to resign. The point has been made that pastors have certain rights under canon law, that bishops can't remove them arbitrarily. Do the laity have any rights under canon law not to have pastors foisted off on them who aren't a good fit with the parish? It seems light rights should be a two way street. It isn't just academic hair-splitting, a pastor can tear a parish apart, leaving the laity to feel that they have mo recourse.

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    1. I'm really not a Republican or a Democrat. Does that mean I'm still a Catholic? If there was a socialist party that wanted abortion regulation like they have in Europe, I'd be a member.

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  7. An interesting tweet

    Memo to @USCCB: Pope Francis addressing Italian Bishop’ Conference meeting at a posh Roman Hotel: “When I entered, a bad thought occurred to me: is this an assembly of bishops or a competition to elect the most beautiful bishop?"

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    1. LoL! I really do like Pope Francis even thought he’s still at caveman thinking level when it comes to women.

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