Monday, May 25, 2020

Genealogical oopsies

Genealogy is not necessarily my cup of tea.  But I have family members who slurp it right down, and recently one of them, in her researches, discovered a closet, opened the door and found a skeleton grinning back at her.

All my life, I've known people who have a passion for tracing family trees.  In my younger days, it struck me as a pursuit for the gloriously amateur historian: trudging through old cemeteries, paging through family bibles and scrapbooks, soliciting the not-always-reliable memories of elderly relatives while they still lived, and so on. 

It appears that at least two infusions of technology have transformed the musty hobby.  The first was the advent of ancestry.com and other sites of that ilk.  All of a sudden, census records, Ellis Island records and similar veins of genealogical gold were at the family sleuth's fingertips; and these programs have a knack for identifying descendants of ancestors' siblings and marriages.

(Quick aside: my father's father, from whom my surname has descended to me, immigrated to this country as a young boy.  His first name, as all of us in the family including him had always understood, was Alberic.  Here in America, that was shortened to "Brick".  Naturally, when one's name is Brick, one endures a good deal of ribbing, not all of it in good fun, so he always hated the name.  Shortly before his death, we consulted the Ellis Island entrance records and discovered that his given name was not Alberic, but John.  He was crushed; he could have had the name John his entire life.  How he ended up as Alberic and Brick is a mystery which I believe the family historians may never solve).

The second transformation occurred when genetic tests from 23andMe and similar outfits made it inexpensive and convenient to obtain one's genetic profile and share it on the genealogy sites.  As the genetic profiles have accumulated, the genealogy sites are able to find all sorts of connections with distant relatives about whom one has never previously heard.  I have a sister who spends a good deal of her spare time reaching out to contemporaries who, according to the ancestry sites, are third cousins nine times removed (not really an exaggeration) and having excited correspondences and web chats with them.

Well.  It turns out that these genetic profiles not only find heretofore unsuspected connections, they also are adept at finding, er, un-connections.  And one of the latter appeared on one of the main branches of my family tree.  In what follows, I'm going to use real names, because I think it's sufficiently far back that nobody should really care anymore.

So - my mother's mother's parents were Joe Baur and his wife Helen nee Posbyhala, from somewhere in central Wisconsin.  While my mother was growing up, she had noted the curiosity that her mother had blue eyes even though neither of her mother's parents did.  I know even less about recessive genes and their outward appearances than I do about the distinction between "who" and "whom", but as my mother describes it, it really shouldn't happen that the child of two parents with brown eyes should produce a child with blue eyes.  What's more, my mom's mom's siblings, who were numerous (there may have been nine or more) all had brown eyes.

My mother's childhood question remained unanswered for many decades, until my sister noticed something else recently: amid the droves and myriads of descendants of ancestors and relatives presented to her by the ancestry website services, there should have been many Baurs who were descendants of my great-grandfather's siblings, aunts and uncles and so forth, but there were hardly any.  According to the website, it seemed to be a dead branch on the family tree, but my mother, who has worked hard her entire life to maintain relationships with cousins both near and distant and still has a fine working knowledge of her family, assured my sister that, no, there were many descendants of Baur cousins still alive and kicking.

My sister also noticed, on the genealogy sites, the appearance of a branch of the family of whom neither she nor my mother had previously heard: the Ubelechers.  Nobody that my sister asked could explain how the Ubelechers were related to us; according to virtually everyone, they're not related to us at all.  Yet the genetics say otherwise.

Recently my sister ran across an ancient high school yearbook from the tiny town in Wisconsin from which my mom's mom's parents hailed.  And there was a young Ubelecher man in that school, if not in their very class, then within a year or two.  My sister showed my mother the picture.  And my mother was thunderstruck: she thought the young man looked exactly like her mom, herself, her brother, a couple of her brother's children, and some of her own children (perhaps including me, although my eyes are brown).

The reasonable if tentative conclusion seems to be that the young man in the yearbook, or perhaps another Ubelecher, fathered my mother's mother by way of my great-grandmother.  Did they have a moment of passion?  A torrid affair?  Was she raped?  Was my great-grandfather aware?  Nobody knows.  All the principals went to heaven long ago.  My sister would be perfectly willing to reach out to some present-day Ubelechers, but she tells me that all of them have tagged themselves on the ancestry program as not wishing to be contacted by other enthusiasts.

I admit I don't make much of all this.  Whatever happened that long ago, happened.  My generation, and the generations that have come after, are pretty worldly about these things.  I don't remember off-hand how many children are born out of wedlock these days, but it's pretty high.  I don't think my grandmother's birth was exactly out of wedlock, although it was pretty darn early after her putative-parents' wedding (maybe too early), so my mother is telling herself and the rest of us that her grandfather, Joe Baur, may have had more than a little of St. Joseph about him.

For my mother, this is kind of a big deal.  Of course, she knew my great-grandmother a good deal better than I did; she can't help wondering if her grandmother kept a secret from her all these years.  And it's more than a little shocking to her that the man she grew up calling "Grandpa" may not have been her Grandpa at all.  Plus, she still carries a bit of pre-Vatican-II baggage with her, and the idea that her mom might have been whatever the female equivalent of a bastard used to be called, is something she can't quite let go of. 

56 comments:

  1. Two brown-eyed people can have a blue-eyed child if each carries a recessive blue. Two blue-eyed parents cannot have a brown-eyed child.

    In this way I learned in eighth grade biology that my dad's biological father had to have had brown eyes, because Gramma's were blue. It was the first thing I knew for certain about him.

    Once, when I was about 14, I mentioned this to Gramma. She opened up a lot of info I later used to track down the biological family through Social Security death records that were online in the 1990s.

    The disappointment for Dad was that he turned out to be Welsh instead of Irish. In some ways meeting his half siblings and getting his questions answered meant he could no longer reinvent himself or romanticize his unknown family. But in many ways, he also appreciated that he had had a much more stable life than some of his half siblings who had lived with his errant father.

    ReplyDelete
  2. For sure, illegitimacy was a bigger deal back in the day. And people never "speak now, or forever keep their peace". Eventually somebody always spills the beans. My husband's grandmother found out when she was in her sixties, that the people she thought were her parents were actually her grandparents. She was devastated because people that she loved had lied to her, even though they had done it for "her own good".
    My own birthday is eight and a half months after my parents' wedding day. My brothers teased me a little about that, but my mother assured me I was a "honeymoon baby". And my Baptism dress was a tiny size, so that is maybe true. Not that it matters, I am glad and grateful to be alive.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Related to this topic, did anyone watch "Dr. Thorne", the mini series based on the Anthony Trollope novel of the same name? It all ended well for the heroine, but not before she had to endure the snobbery of her neighbors due to her supposed illegitimacy.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I read the book earlier this year. I thought it telegraphed its surprises, but Tolstoy loved Trollope.

      Delete
    2. I enjoy Trollope, but he was famous/notorious for telling the reader what was about to happen. Henry James wrote some snotty things about Trollope.

      Delete
    3. I don't really mind knowing what's going to happen. My husband laughs at me because I sometimes read the ending of a book just to see if it's worth reading the rest of it.

      Delete
    4. "My husband laughs at me because I sometimes read the ending of a book just to see if it's worth reading the rest of it."

      Katherine - my wife does the same. She happened to be in the room when I read your comment. I relayed it to her, and she proclaimed, "Sister!" :-)

      Delete
    5. Katherine and Jim, I also often read the ending, especially when I’m not crazy about the book. If it becomes tedious but I still want to know how everything turned out, I skip to the end.

      Delete
  4. My Ancestry dot com test came up with no surprises. Although it would have to be double checked, I was totally surprised that my family tree linked up with someone elses records research and my ancestry may have been traced as far back as someone born in Poland in 1715. I never expected to go back any further than my great grandparents.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Stanley, if you don't mind my asking: did it show that you have any Neanderthal ancestry? I've heard that is fairly common in these results. It's the one aspect of these genetic tests that really intrigues me.

      I think I've mentioned before that I refuse to take one, because I understand that law enforcement can use the publicly available information to find matches to DNA. I'm not opposed to the use of DNA to solve crimes, but I don't want to contribute to any relatives of mine getting arrested. Maybe that's not exactly rational or mature (probably not rational at all, inasmuch as my parents and at least some of my siblings already have had the test done, so my genetics presumably are a matter of public record already), but I guess there is a part of me that values family loyalty over law and order. For whatever reason, I don't want to be personally complicit in it.

      Delete
    2. I don't understand how they can prove anyone has Neanderthal genes. Not that I'm prejudiced. But the most recent Neanderthal sample they could obtain would be sonething like 30,000 years. The DNA, if any could be found, would be so degraded as to be useless, IMO.

      Delete
    3. Katherine, re: the Neanderthal genome: I saw an episode of Nova about this, and read a very little bit about it. It seems they've been able to retrieve little bits of actual DNA code, e.g. from the insides of bones which have been recovered. That, together with computer modeling and some ingenuity seems to have allowed them to put together at least a theoretical view of the genome.

      Delete
    4. Jim, I think I can have my genome run through another analysis that comes up with medical proclivities. I believe the Neanderthal gene reading comes out of that. I haven't been motivated to pay for that one yet but I suspect I have a lot of Neanderthal in me. Hard to knock out.

      Delete
    5. Stanley - that Nova special I mentioned portrayed the Neandertal as admirable in some respects - and physically more powerful than us. Probably we managed to make them die out through sheer meanness and evil, abetted by infecting them with our diseases, i.e. par for the human course.

      This is from the Wikipedia page on their technology and culture:

      "Neanderthal technology is thought to have been quite sophisticated. It includes the Mousterian stone tool industry[27][28] and possibly the abilities to create fire[29][30] and build cave hearths,[31][32] make the adhesive birch bark tar,[33] craft at least simple clothes similar to blankets and ponchos,[34] weave,[35] go seafaring through the Mediterranean,[36][37] make use of medicinal plants[38][39][40] as well as treat severe injuries,[41] store food,[42] and use various cooking techniques, such as roasting, boiling,[43] and smoking.[44] Neanderthals made use of a wide array of food, mainly hoofed mammals,[45] but also other megafauna,[25][46] plants,[47][48][49] small mammals, birds, and aquatic and marine resources.[50] Though they were likely apex predators, they still competed with cave bears, cave lions, cave hyaenas, and other large predators.[51] A number of examples of symbolic thought and Palaeolithic art have been inconclusively[52] attributed to Neanderthals, namely possible ornaments made from bird bones[53][54] or shells,[55] collections of unusual objects including crystals and fossils,[56] engravings,[57] music production indicated by the Divje Babe Flute,[58] and Spanish cave paintings contentiously[59] dated to before 65 kya.[60][61] Some claims of religious beliefs have been made.[62] Neanderthals were likely capable of speech, possibly articulate, though it is unclear how complex their language would have been.[63][64]"

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal#Extinction

      Delete
    6. Jim, I believe part of the reason for their strength was the location of the muscle attachment to the bone. Like chimpanzees, further from the joint making for better mechanical advantage. Our muscles are closer, making us less able to apply force but better able to throw things like spears. But that's what I read a couple years ago. Might be obsolete now. That stuff is always shifting. Humans and they shared the same area for 20,000 years or so so it might have been a slow displacement and not a genocide.

      Delete
  5. Embarrassing in another way: The passenger ship Lady Elgin sank after a collision with a lumber carrier in 1860 in one of Lake Michigan's major marine disasters. Some 300 lives were lost. My son the alderman got interested when he learned that many of the dead were from Milwaukee's Irish political establishment. They had been to Chicago to hear Stephen Douglas (who may or may not have showed up) speak, and they were returning. The disaster wiped out the cream of the Irish politicos and opened Milwaukee government to the Germans who ran the city for the net 100+ years. Or so says the alderman.

    When he was talking about this, I chimed in that his great-great grandfather, Captain Martin Blackburn, captained "the first ship to come to the rescue of the Lady Elgin." That is the way I and my cousins had always heard the story. My son said that he had not, in his research, found any rescuers except a student from Northwestern University who braved the gale to rescue a few survivors.

    I called my cousin who was doing ancestry before ancestry was cool. She knew Martin Blackburn's had been "the first ship to come to the rescue of the Lady Elgin." Heard it from the same sources I did. But when we started putting dates together we saw that Martin was only 23 in 1860, too young to be a Lakes captain. And then, killer, was still a Canadian in 1860. He bought his first brig, the Roscius," in the early 1870s.

    (Martin was a handsome fellow and a bit of a rounder. He died in San Francisco but was buried in Salt Lake City. He seems to have acquired three, or maybe five, wives before the first one died. But that part of the story is factual. My son the filmmaker has visited the grave.)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. And we wonder why the Gospel accounts don't agree in every respect.

      Delete
    2. No heroic legends in my family. Maybe that's better because there's nothing to disappoint following further investigation. Just a bunch of Polish farmers growing food. Good enough.

      Delete
    3. Salt of the.earth! I think that's a heritage to be proud of.

      Delete
    4. Stanley: in your research about Poland, have you come across this:

      https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/kielce-post-holocaust-pogrom-poland-still-fighting-over-180967681/

      Kielce: The Post-Holocaust Pogrom That Poland Is Still Fighting Over

      I enjoyed reading Michener's book "Poland" which is possibly a bit hagiographic.

      Delete
    5. Jimmy,
      I only recently read about Kielce. It was depressing to read about the antisemitism in Polish history, even recent Polish history but not surprising. One would hope that being on the business end of oppression, they would have compassion for their own oppressed. But it apparently doesn't work that way.
      When an article in "America" appeared concerning the history of Polish antisemitism, there followed some angry comments from Polish Americans. Personally, I've already absorbed the nasty history side of the United States. Genocide, slavery, oppression. If you don't acknowledge these things, they can re-emerge like a second wave of COVID. So the Poles and Polish-Americans like myself should acknowledge their legacy is mixed, as well. It's not fun, but it's necessary.
      No, I never read Michener's "Poland" or any comprehensive history of Poland. I should. I certainly have the time.

      Delete
  6. Back in the 70s I became slightly interested in my ancestry, probably because of the "Roots" series. In the Indiana University library I found three Polish Rakowski's, a social scientist, an economist, and a statistician -maybe some common genetics there. The last "liberal Communist" premier of Poland was a Rakowski. About the same time some Rakosky's contacted me about our possible relationship. They were mainly musicians but did have someone who was involved in developing the Universal Product Code.

    Later on on my mother's side someone developed the Glasser family tree (my material grandmothers side). My mother had this belief based on circumstantial evidence that we were descended from German Jews on her side. No evidence for or against that theory.

    Since we have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, etc seems like if you go back far enough we are all descended from everyone.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. "My mother had this belief based on circumstantial evidence that we were descended from German Jews on her side. No evidence for or against that theory."

      I think this is the sort of question that the genetic profiles can answer pretty decisively. Although I don't know that they're as precisely precise as the purveyors would like us to believe. I've read that identical twins, who should have identical genetic codes, come up with substantially different analyses from these firms. I also question some of the specificity: that, for example, it can trace through my paternal grandmother's branch, not only that her ancestors are from Ireland (which we all knew already) but can point to which county in Ireland. Count me skeptical of some of that.

      Delete
    2. Yeah, about the specificity. I have not done the genetic analysis, but one of my sisters did. She came back with only a small percentage of Scandinavian. We are a fourth Danish, have Grandpa's immigration papers to prove it. This sister is the only one of us who actually looks Scandinavian.

      Delete
    3. My analysis came up with two regions of Poland from which my ancestors came. One was the area around Łodz which my maternal grandparents DID come from. The other was an area to the southeast. I'm assuming my paternal grandparents came from there though I have no other confirmation.

      Delete
    4. Katherine, I don't claim to be an expert on this stuff, but even though by grandparents' heritage you may be 1/4 Danish, your personal genetics may not reflect that same percentage. And it can vary from one sibling to another.

      Delete
  7. "...if you go back far enough we all descended from everyone." That's the truth. And it means we're all related; maybe we should start being nicer to our relatives?

    ReplyDelete
  8. My sister thinks that we have a family mystery also. My dad was the youngest of 9, born 11 years after #8. He had two older sisters. His father was about 51 when he was born and his mother was about 48. Not unheard of. A college friend was born when his mother was 45, his younger brother when she was 47, and his father was older than 50 for both. The classic "menopause" babies.. Also a friend of my mother's had a baby the year she turned 51. She had a baby grandchild too, born a few months before her own baby.

    One of my sisters is convinced that my dad's sister, 17 years older, was really his mother. She based this on a story told by a totally untrustworthy family member by marriage who died more than 30 years ago. She had named her child after this aunt, who was never married, and doted on my brother, who had unfortunately married this lying, scheming woman. My aunt had been hardworking and thrifty and had saved a nest egg, a decent amount considering that she never graduated from high school. Her father, an old-fashioned German immigrant, did not believe that girls needed to stay in school after 8th grade because they would be home-makers supported by husbands. My aunt was born in 1892 and there wasn't a law requiring her to stay in school then. But my aunt never married. She did essentially raise my dad because she was living at home while he grew up. The other sister was married with a child by the time my dad came along. The unmarried aunt was close to our family, spending Christmas and other holidays with us fairly regularly, but not always. She also joined the families of her other sibs at times. After my Dad left the family, got a divorce and quit working he moved in with her, and she took care of him again for many years.

    My sister's theory is possible, but it seems to me that at least one of the two parties (my father or my aunt) would have spilled the beans before they died. She was 90 when she died, of very sound mind. We visited her two months before her death. By then she was partly blind and had moved into what we would call assisted living, leaving my father to fend for himself, which she should have done years earlier.

    However, we can't determine anything from his birth certificate as he was born at home, just as the older eight sibs had been. If my aunt was the mom, it is possible that the midwife or doctor agreed to list my grandmother as his mother. Who knows. I have assumed that my grandmother was his mother and my aunt was his sister, but we will never know for sure. My sister who suspects that our aunt was really our father's mother has done the 23andMe test I think. Her son gave it to her as a present for some reason. I'll have to ask her if any unknown names popped up in her results, non-family. Our paternal family name is very rarely found in the US and we can pretty much identify everyone with that name and their links to our own family. A DNA analysis might turn up a strange family name that lived in LA in the early 20th century. My dad was born in 1909 and LA was a small town then.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anne, that's an intriguing mystery. It's possible too that your aunt took care of your dad a lot when he was little, and they formed a bond.
      On sort of a funny note, when my husband first met me, he wondered if my sister who was 18 years younger than me was actually my daughter. He didn't tell me that until after we were married. Even though we grew up in the same town, we didn't meet until I got a summer job in the grocery store that his father was part owner of. There is a four year age difference between us. When we started dating my little sister was 6 months old. But there had been too many witnesses to my mom being heavily and obviously pregnant, and being in the hospital for a week after a prolonged labor and C section delivery, for there to be any real mystery about who my sister's mother was.
      When we were dating if Mom thought we were getting too cozy down in the tv room she would tell us to watch the baby for awhile. Kind of an object lesson, mess around and you could end up with one of these.
      It's funny, but that youngest sister is the sibling I am closest to. Maybe because I did take care of her quite a bit when she was little.

      Delete
    2. "One of my sisters is convinced that my dad's sister, 17 years older, was really his mother. She based this on a story told by a totally untrustworthy family member by marriage who died more than 30 years ago. "

      If it isn't true, then that's an incredibly malicious lie for that person to spread through the family.

      I'm not as emotionally attached to my extended family and more remote relatives as my mom is. There are times when I'm grateful not to be more superficially acquainted with most of them. I really don't want to know where the skeletons are living!

      Delete
    3. "There are times when I'm grateful not to be more superficially acquainted with most of them."

      That should read, "... more than superficially acquainted ..."

      Delete
    4. What's really challenging for parents is naming a child who is a lot younger than her siblings. Because all the sibling will chime in with their two bits worth.

      Delete
    5. My youngest sister was born when I was in high school. My older sister would have been old enough to be her mom. If there were any rumors flying around about that possibility, I guess I missed them. Let me do some quick math ... I guess my mom was still in her late 30s at that time. So not really even that unusual. But when my mom was 24, she already had given birth to the four oldest of us. I didn't even get married until Therese was 24.

      Delete
    6. My mom was 39 when she had my youngest sister, would have been nearly 21 when she had me. I and my next in age brother were our sister's godparents. I was 23 when our oldest was born, and 27 when the younger one was. By contrast, our younger son and daughter in law were both 27 when they got married, and 30 when the youngest kid was born, 36 when the third one was born. The older son and his wife were 35 and 37 when they got married, and they didn't have any children. I think if that was going to happen it would have by now.

      Delete
    7. Should read, our son and daughter in law were "...30 when the oldest kid was born." You don't have the youngest one first!

      Delete
  9. Jim, My late former sister-in-law was a dishonest and manipulative woman The malice part became evident after she divorced my brother.

    Katherine, you are not your sister’s secret mother. But another college friend learned that her 17 year old sister was really her mother. She learned this when she was 12. One of her aunts was angry with her and told her 5hat she didn’t deserve her parents, who were actually her grandparents. She had been adopted from an orphanage which was actually also an unwed mothers home. She was so stunned and she really wasn’t over the emotional shock when I knew her. The family was very wealthy, Catholics in Latin America. . She was sent to the US for college. She was eventually told who her father was - an actor. He had blue eyes as did she, the only member of her family who did not have brown eyes. But she hadn’t wondered about that because she knew she was adopted.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anne, that sounds like a Joan Crawford or Loretta Young scenario. People decry the state of morality now with so many unwed births, but at least we don't go through these elaborate charades any more. Which is just as well.

      Delete
    2. Lol! We watched a lot of Loretta Young movies. She went to the same Catholic girls high school in LA that my mom went to. Her older sister, Polly Ann, was one of my mother’s best friends in high school, so she always followed Loretta’s career closely. My mom had great stories from growing up in LA in that era, before it became a huge city. She went to UCLA when it was a smallish local college. One of her sorority sisters married a football player from USC named Marion Michael Morrison. He went by Mike as I recall. He was later known as John Wayne. My mother’s friend was his first wife. She was the mother of his eldest children. One of his sons was a student at Loyola of Los Angeles when my oldest sister was a student at Marymount. She knew Pat Wayne but not really well. Dated a fraternity brother of his. Loyola Marymount University came about later, during my college era. My mother and father managed a small apt building when they were first married in exchange for rent. When she had her first child, one of the tenants gave her a hand knitted blanket. Too bad she didn’t keep it. That tenant became famous also in the following years - Lucille Ball.

      I look back on all my mom’s experiences in LA when she was a young woman and wish I had asked a lot more questions.

      I am also glad that the days of sending young women “in trouble”:away to a home, to be hidden, and forcing them to give up their babies for adoption are gone. It happened to one of my husband’s cousins. Nobody in the family knew for almost 40 years. She went public when she decided to allow the record of the adoption to be opened. Her daughter did look for her, and they developed a strong relationship as adults. That cousin never married and this daughter is her only child. It’s not a normal mother- daughter relationship but it’s a good relationship. My husband’s cousin is now 82 and I am very happy that her daughter is in her life. One of our nieces got pregnant at 19. She kept her son and raised him with her parents support, finished college and law school.

      We had a number of classmates in college who were from very wealthy families in Latin America and also a couple from Asia. I don’t think any of them had what we ordinary American girls considered a normal life. Lots of money, household servants, multiple homes. But once we got the inside scoop, I don’t think any of us envied them.

      Delete
    3. Anne, I love the show-biz stories :-)

      And I am so glad things worked out so well with your niece and her son. As you say, social norms have changed a bit since the days of our parents and grandparents (and great-grandparents). But I would guess that it still is a courageous decision for a single pregnant woman to decide to keep her baby. I thought the film "Juno" struck some true notes. I know you mentioned you don't see many. If you're able to see that one, I'd encourage you to check it out.

      Delete
    4. Juno gave up the baby.

      I know a LOT of women in their 50s and 60s "helping" to raise a single daughter's baby. In about half the cases, Gramma has custody because the daughter is in jail or in dope. I'm the best cases, Gramma does most of the work while the daughter tries to finish school and get a start in life. If the father is in the picture, that complicates things a lot. The financial and emotional drain is tremendous. I am glad girls are not sent away any longer, but these are hard choices and involve many more people than mothers and babies.

      Delete
    5. "Juno gave up the baby."

      True. When I said it takes courage to "keep the baby", I was thinking about the pregnancy, not what comes after birth.

      Delete
    6. Oh, sorry, yes, she made the decision not to abort. I liked that movie. We watched it with The Boy, and had recurring conversations about responsibility and how few rights teenage fathers have over these decisions. It seemed to resonate.

      We probably should have done a better job bringing in Church teaching, but at that point, he would have said that the Church hates homosexuals and trans people, so appealing to common human feeling vs. religious authority seemed the best way to go at the time.

      Likely one of the things on the negative side of my Heavenly Ledger.

      Delete
  10. Jim: When I said it takes courage to "keep the baby", I was thinking about the pregnancy, not what comes after birth.

    Unfortunately it seems that most of the activist pro-lifers also do not think much about what happens after the birth - not for a month or two but for 18 years followed by the rest of the mother's life.

    Sure, they donate a few diapers maybe, and some formula, but then they vote for people who will do everything they can to reduce or eliminate the social safety nets single women need if they are to keep their baby and raise it - while working, while going to school, etc. When I realized this, after being a fairly strong supporter of Right to Life, I backed off. First, I realized that my understanding of the development from single cell to human being was largely a religious view. Many people don't believe that a zygote is a human being. It is human life with the potential of becoming a human being, but not a human person - until....

    That is the question. A moral/philosophical question that has been answered more than one way throughout history, including by the Roman Catholic church.

    But I also realized that once the woman is convinced to keep her baby in the sense you intended (not abort) the pro-life folk drop most concern for her after a few months at most. I don't even see them doing much promotion of adoption. They fight even having profit-making corporations include birth control coverage in their health insurance. Not all married women want baby after baby after baby either. Some abort when the family can't handle one more child. But the fanatics out there refuse to see this.

    Also most people I have known who adopted did so either privately through lawyers, or from overseas. There should be a better way.

    I would NOT like to see the kind of pressure return that my husband's cousin faced at the maternity home/adoption agency (and her mother especially) when she got pregnant her senior year of college in the late 1950s(she is my favorite of his cousins and we have talked a lot about this).

    But not everyone is as fortunate as my niece when she got pregnant in college decades later. First, there was no scarlet letter anymore. She wasn't "ruined" for life. Her parents are well to do, had weekly household help for cleaning, grocery shopping, laundry and even for cooking several days worth of meals - they both worked and their daughter and new grandson stayed home for a year. Once she went back to school she lived in married student housing, paid for by her parents as was the day care for her son. She also went to law school with full parental support for living and childcare (not tuition - she took out a loan for that). Many young women do not have that kind of support, and, as Jean notes, the grandparents end up providing full-time childcare for several years. Exhausting just to think of it. I get tired after taking care of our grandkids for more than an hour or two.

    The pro-life people should not simply consider that women who choose not to abort are courageous for that choice, but that their courage is significantly more than that decision - that one decision results in a lifetime of complexity. They need more support if the abortion rate is to fall.

    I had never heard of Juno either. Just not tuned into the popular culture I'm afraid. But reading about it, it brought back the memory of another unwed pregnancy of a schoolmate from high school days. This is the 60s. A very nice boy and very nice girl a class behind me - both Catholic, both top students - got into "trouble". She gave birth and put the baby up for adoption. They both went to college and continued their relationship. They got married after graduating and had three children together. I can't imagine the emptiness they feel about the missing fourth child - their firstborn, whom they were convinced to give up for adoption. I don't know if they ever were reunited with their child as my husband's cousin was able to do. Heartbreaking either way.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anne, thanks for those admonishments. I agree that in this as in so many ways, it's better to be well-off than poor. And I'd add that many pro-life activists do provide support for pregnant women after birth. But I also think that all the different forms of support we're discussing here: family support, government support and support from private agencies, as well as support from the father - are necessary.

      Delete
  11. "Also most people I have known who adopted did so either privately through lawyers, or from overseas."
    The overseas adoptions are a moral conundrum. If the children truly were orphans, or the birth parents gave them up of their own free will, that's one thing. It's another if there was coercion involved, by the government, or by agencies which were sometimes corrupt, as was the case in some Latin American countries in the past. Interestingly, a lot of parents who pursue foreign adoptions do so because of an overly wide window in which birth parents can change their mind in this country.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Katherine, doesn't that vary by state? In Michigan it's six months plus a five-day window after finalization for a change of mind in some circumstances.

      A friend and husband adopted their daughter as a newborn. It was a very fraught situation. The biological parents had the day with the baby and grandparents on the day of the birth. My friend and husband agreed to come the day after.

      Unfortunately, the grandparents were waiting for them in the parking lot as they were taking the baby, sobbing and asking to take pictures, press gifts on them, and tried to get a chance to hold the baby one last time. My friends were terrified they were in such a state that they would run away with it.

      That is really no way to start life with an adopted child. The agency was really remiss in handling the "hand off."

      Delete
    2. Yes I believe it does vary by state, but 6 months is pretty common. But putting myself in the adoptive parents' place, by six months the bond with the child would be formed. I can understand why the emotional rollercoaster would be devastating if they had to give up the baby up to six months into the process.

      Delete
    3. It has happened. There was one case in Michigan where an adoption was finalized and the mother regretted it. She got the father, who had not terminated rights, to contest it. The adoptive parents fought it, and the child was returned to the biological parents at age 3. They changed her first and last name and moved to Iowa. No winners in that situation. I presume everyone involved is in therapy now.

      Delete
    4. That’s so sad. One of my college roommates and her husband adopted a baby in California. The mom changed her mind after a month and they had to give the baby back. They were heartbroken. But at one month of age, it was probably not deeply traumatic to the infant.

      (P.s. to Jim - their adoption was facilitated by an attorney recommended to them by a close friend whose movie industry linked name name would be instantly recognized by you and everyone here . I imagine But, my lips (iPad) have to remain sealed on this one.)

      I can’t imagine the trauma of this to a 3 year old and the adoptive parents.

      Delete
    5. Someone compiled the Detroit newspaper update stories about Baby Jessica here: http://clarkcunningham.org/PR/JessicaUpdates.htm

      The child at she 12 said she has no memory of her adoptive parents.

      Delete
    6. George Clooney? Julia Roberts? Someone else from the Ocean's Eleven remake? C'mon Anne - dish :-)

      Delete
    7. Jean I well remember the back and forth with baby Jessica. It panicked my niece a bit because she worried then that her son’s bio-dad might decide to demand parental rights at some point when he became a mature adult. She need not have worried. She chased him down and presented him with paperwork to renounce his paternal rights. She didn’t hear back because he was traipsing around the country after some rock band. When his father, a doctor who had wanted nothing to do with his grandson, was called and told that my niece was going to file for child support, the paternal bio-grandad got hold of his son lickety splt, probably threatening to cut off the allowance even though his son was in his 20s by then. So papers and interviews with the judge went forward and biodad was out of the picture forever. He had never asked to meet his son, or even asked for a photo or updates on his well being. I suppose at some point his son or a grandchild may go to 23andMe and start looking.

      Delete
  12. George Clooney? Julia Roberts? Someone else from the Ocean's Eleven remake? C'mon Anne - dish :-)

    LOL!

    Sorry, no luck with those guesses. ;)

    I was my roommate's maid of honor. The now celebrity was best man. He wasn't famous then - not until a few years later. But, he is still alive and still well-known, unlike John Wayne, Lucille Ball, Loretta Young and my mother, who died in 1992 - too soon.

    Angelenos who are part of the Catholic independent school network often rub elbows with Hollywood types who enroll their kids in Catholic schools. It's the same in DC, only instead of Hollywood types the "famous" families with kids in your own kids' Catholic school are members of the political class - often also household names.

    I imagine that may be true in Chicago - the Catholic schools educate children of some of the local power people. I'm guessing you may know a few too, Jim. Less glamorous than Hollywood maybe, but VIPs of some kind. And I'm quite sure Margaret could drop a whole lot of very recognizable names of people she knows from among both the clerical and political power players. Maybe a few Broadway stars and famous musicians too!

    Tom used to schmooze with a lot of bishops as I recall. But, even among the young today, more people might recognize the name John Wayne than Bishop Dolan.

    Long live Hollywood!

    ReplyDelete
  13. " ...and the idea that her mom might have been whatever the female equivalent of a bastard used to be called, is something she can't quite let go of." If her last name was "Snow," that would have been a dead giveaway.

    ReplyDelete
  14. My dad was born (as they said in those days: out of wedlock)in 1907 in a VERY small town in SW Wisconsin. The fact was no secret to anyone in that town and he finally 'fessed up to me when I turned 14 and had "the talk." I discovered that I had an entire new set of cousins that I had never known about. Furthermore, the man who fathered him owned the local movie theater and periodically when I would go to the movies, he would treat me to popcorn or candy. His shrewish wife sold the tickets and she was cold to everyone. He (his name was Henry Kellner) was kind of shy but liked by all.

    People, especially those in small towns dominated by one religion … RC of course … can be quite cruel, and my dad grew up with the facts of his birth thrown in his face many times. I have always felt that was a contributing factor to his alcoholism.

    ReplyDelete
  15. " … not only that her ancestors are from Ireland (which we all knew already) but can point to which county in Ireland. Count me skeptical of some of that."

    I very easily found that my paternal gggrandfather and his wife were originally from County Monaghan. That kind of information is relatively easy to find.

    My maternal grandmother emigrated from Holland to the US in 1879. I have been able to trace her mother's line back to the 1600s.

    I got bitten by the bug about 12 years ago and have finally burned out on trying to find anything very new that goes back in time. Ancestry.com always comes up with new information (draft registrations, will probate records, etc.) that keeps me periodically going back to their site. I keep my rather expensive subscription in force so I can do that.

    ReplyDelete