Monday, August 24, 2020

What the -- ! (Sigh)

 Presidents appoint Cabinet secretaries, but the appointees work for their constituents. The Commerce department promotes trade for companies that do it, the education department promotes schools for people who attend them. It has always been assumed that they are do so in concert with the president's policies and that they are, more or less, political. State and Justice have been exceptions. Forget Justice, for  a moment, if you can. At least Bob Barr is not (at this writing) going to address the Republican National Convention.

Secretary of State Michael Pompeo is. 

He will do it from Jerusalem. He will do it "in his personal capacity." Sure, good ol' Mikie always personally hangs out in places like Jerusalem. He will orate from there. He carefully tweeted “Looking forward to sharing with you how my family is more SAFE and more SECURE because of President Trump” on his personal Twitter account.

So, everybody, ignore his job and revel in his wisdom when he orates.

 I can't remember a precedent for a secretary of state addressing a political convention. Neither has anyone else, apparently, because the stories all say it's "unusual" or "breaks precedent." Henry Kissinger didn't slobber over President Nixon. Cordell Hull never said warm and fuzzy things about FDR. John Foster Dulles, who had as much to do as anybody with Dwight Eisenhower becoming president, disappeared for his renomination convention.

 The reason secretaries of state make themselves scarce when the balloons drop, or whatever, lies in the adage that "politics stops at the water's edge." We may argue foreign policy at home, but not in front of the goyim. There is no law that says so. It's only good taste, common sense and concern for the good of the country.

Good taste, common sense and concern for the good of the country mean zippo to the corporation that runs this country, its flunkies, foot soldiers, suck-ups and hangers-on. With these people, it is one blast of flatus in church after another.


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  1. It's entirely possible that the gang of stumblebums, stooges and dilettantes running the White House and the country have never heard of that rule before. Don't underestimate the chaos that pure, distilled ignorance unleashes in this presidency.

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  2. Yeah, sigh. Nothing that comes out of the Trump administration shocks me anymore. I think most of us walk around in a state of low-level dread and depression, and the noises that come out of the sty that the White House are just so much grunting and squealing that keep the malaise going.

    I don't think that Mike Pompeo in Jerusalem is going to woo a lot of American Jewish voters in the wake of the comments about the "good people" in the Charlotte torchlight parade or indifference to gun control in the wake of the Tree of Life shooting. Jews know who Trump is and what he stands for, and they're a small voting block anyway.

    My guess is that Pompeo, Live From Jerusalem! is aimed at the fundie-gelical End-Timers. In their mythology, Armageddon is tied up with the state of Israel and the Pope making deals with Satan. Jack Chick has it all illustrated in one of his more graphic tracts.

    On the Interesting Development Front, Kellyanne Conway will make her final appearance in the Trump administration at the convention. She and George seem to have worked out a deal whereby he will stop printing mean things about Trump and remove himself from the Lincoln Project if she will resign from the administration and stay home with the kiddies. The WaPo reported this morning that the campaign had envisioned a two-state-per-day appearance schedule for her, and she apparently decided this was too much time away from her family.

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    1. I suspect that their 15 year old daughter’s social media sharing of her angst with her life, her disgust with Trump, and tweeting that her mother’s career had ruined her life, that her mother only wanted wealth and fame, and finally her request for pro bono lawyers to volunteer to help her legally emancipate herself from her family May have caused a family crisis. A sample of what has been going on.

      https://www.insider.com/claudia-conway-twitter-fighting-mom-kellyanne-conway-tweets-trump-2020-7


      https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/kellyanne-conways-daughter-claudia-reacts-to-her-moms-resignation/

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    2. Anne, yikes! I guess she got her parents' attention. I guess it's another example of how toxic the Trump administration is. Hopefully they will get into some family counseling.

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    3. The WaPo only hinted at backlash with the kids. I had no idea her daughter was oversharing on social media. I feel sorry for all of them.

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    4. "I feel sorry for all of them."

      Same here.

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  3. A whole lot of things are without precedent this time around.
    And LOL, my late father in law used to say something similar to your last sentence; that certain people every time they opened their mouth it was like that blast.

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    1. Your father in law smelled it when he saw it. Too few people of any age are able to do that anymore.

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  4. I have heard that Trump campaigning on the grounds of the White House may be a violation of the Hatch Act (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/20/trump-rnc-speech-399483) Do we have any constitutional scholars posting/lurking here who could opine?

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    1. Jim, that link appears to be broken.
      I read that was one reason the rose garden got the makeover, was to facilitate Trump's campaigning. It would certainly seem to be irregular.

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    2. Trump can always point to the "Rose Garden strategy" of Jimmie Carter, I suppose, as precedent. It didn't work out well for the last one to try it.

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    3. As with so many things this president has done that might be illegal or against the rules, it's up to someone to either arrest him or get a court to slap an injunction on his action. Where is the action against him about his operation in the Old Post Office in D.C.? Not coming up in my Google news feed.

      Trump basically operates under the rule that it's easier to plead ignorance after the fact than to bother to learn the rules/laws. And the majority in the House can't get enough traction to enforce anything.

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    4. Not a lawyer, but one reason it's difficult to sue the President or Congress is that most of us lack legal standing, i.e. whatever injury we individual citizens suffer from his campaigning from the Rose Garden isn't material enough to merit a court case.

      The fact is, incumbents in Washington play from a re-election deck stacked in their favor. One of the reasons that incumbents are difficult to dislodge. Difficult, but not impossible, especially for a vigilant and motivated electorate.

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    5. I think that this exempts the Orange A$$hole and his Vice Lemming from the Hatch Act restrictions: https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/migrated/20070328154603-20874.pdf

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  5. Didn't watch any of the convention yesterday, but checked into WaPo coverage today. This quote from a True Beliver seems pretty representative:
    "Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), one of the president’s staunchest defenders in Congress, said Democrats want to “disarm you, empty the prisons, lock you in your home, and invite MS-13 to live next door. And the defunded police aren’t on their way.”
    Pretty much they're running on fear.
    I guess Senator Tim Scott and Nikki Haley spoke on a more positive note, saying that as minorities they felt that the Republican party gave them the best chance to climb the ladder. Plenty of other minority people would say "what ladder?" But at least tgey weren't gaslighting. Or yelling. Like Kimberley Guilfoille. I hadn't known she was Gavin Newsom's ex. I did know she is Donnie Jr's present significant other.

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    1. Guilfoille is not a first-generation American, either. Her mother is Puerto Rican. Hmm, maybe she asked Trump about that, and he assured her Puerto Ricans aren't Americans. I can't think of anyone else who would have misled her about her ancestry.

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    2. Guilfoyle sure made California sound like a dystopian wasteland. Take that, ex-husband! My new man is way better than you or that other one I married down in the Carib.

      There is a certain look to all these pro-Trump women: cheerleader hair, low cut spandex dresses, and perfectly lacquered talons. Some of them are intelligent and accomplished individuals, and why they want to look like they just came from an escort gig is beyond me.

      Nikki Haley was about the only woman who wasn't tarted up and who showed some gravitas. Why a woman of her caliber wants to hitch her star to the Trump wagon is beyond me, though.

      I confess that when Jim Jordan, that creepy little weasel, came out, I had to switch it off. I read the convention coverage this morning and then went back to pick up highlights on youtube.

      Looks like Jerry Falwell Jr. won't be speaking. He's busy explaining that he was prez of Liberty, not a minister, which I guess is why he felt he could whore out his wife to his business partner while he watched. At least it was all perfectly heterosexual.

      An oddly compelling moment: Trump thanking eight essential workers. He made eye contact, seemed interested, and was very gracious and on point. I suppose it helped that most of them were telling him what a great job he had done. But it was the only time I have ever seen Trump when he was not bloviating and bragging about himself.

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    3. Jean, I'm pretty sure Nikki Haley wants to save herself for a 2024 run, so she is being careful not to burn any bridges. And I would rather see her as a candidate than any of the Trump kids. Would be interesting if she and Kamala Harris were the candidates running against each other. Would sort of be a South Asian-American moment.
      You are right about most of the Trump team women aspiring for a Barbie doll look. But I'm kind of dissing Batbie there. Kind of funny about Barbie's staying power, that my granddaughters are still playing with her 60 years after I did (though she has undergone many makeovers).

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    4. I didn't watch the whole thing, sort of dipped in and out all evening, but the parts I saw were mostly optimistic. It was kind of surprisingly compelling. Tim Scott was good. A series of women who were on earlier, culminating with Haley, I guess, were also pretty good (except for the yeller).

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    5. She likes to change partners regularly:

      Gavin Newsom (m. 2001; div. 2006)

      Eric Villency (m. 2006; div. 2009)

      Donald Trump, Jr. (2018-present)

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    6. The McCloskeys were interesting. They were mad, among other things, about zoning laws which the Marxist Joe Biden will dismantle to destroy their [white] suburbs. Neither Joe Biden nor the feds have power over local zoning laws.

      They also claimed that the BLM woman who led tell march past their house was going to be "walking the halls" of Congress. Cori Bush won the Democratic primary fair and square, and is up for election in November. She hasn't exactly circumvented the System. Isn't she taking advantage of her right to participate in the sysem, something Trumpers claim they support?

      What also bothers me is using the constant use of the epithet "marxist" and "socialist." Being either is not a crime and never had been. However conservatives used federal powers to harrass leftists under he auspices of HUAC and Joe McCarthy.

      And anyway, Joe Biden is no more a Marxist than Trump is a conservative.

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    7. California is actually at least 3 if not more states wrapped into one: just shy of 40 million people. The LA Basis in very different from the San Francisco megalopolis. The Central Valley and rural countries north of Sacramento have more in common with Nevada and Arizona than the rest of California. The urban areas are victims of their own economic success: housing shortages, rampant homelessness, ridiculously high prices, terrible (pre-Covid) traffic, ad nauseum. I moved here in 1970 and the population was 20 million then. I has doubled in 50 years and that is changing now. The population is starting to shrink: https://qz.com/1599150/californias-population-could-start-shrinking-very-soon/ Lots of problems but dystopianism isn't one of them.

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    8. More about California's impact on current politics:

      https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/article/Guilfoyle-Newsom-Harris-San-Francisco-s-15514307.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=sfc_morningfix&sid=53b754e49dbcd4993b00044b

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  6. Michael Sean Winters is following the convention on NCR. His take is that that they are running on fear, which I think is mostly cprrect. And plz, why does the Cardinal Archbishop of NY have to speak at a political convention?
    But I think MSW is mistaken on this: "But we should all fear that Trump has found precisely the kind of issue – low-income housing – that might so polarize the country, he can close the polling gap with Biden. It is ugly and immoral, but that is not to say it won't work."
    All the Dems have to do is change the wording, "low income housing" to "affordable housing", because it's a problem that reaches across party and regional lines.

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    1. I think it's certainly correct to say that Trump is running on fear. But based on what I saw last night (and I didn't watch it end to end, so I might have missed all the paranoid wacko parts if any), I didn't think Monday was an exercise in fear-mongering. As I mentioned, I thought the messaging was surprisingly optimistic - the United States is still a place of opportunity, and not just for white men.

      To buy into that message, you have to sort of bracket out Trump, which is something on the order of, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?", but it's worth noting that Trump isn't the only Republican on the ballot in November. I had an expectation that the messaging would be, "Vote for Republicans because they all have sworn undying fealty to President Trump". But that wasn't what I heard last night. I heard, "Conservatism has a lot to offer the country.
      President Trump is fulfilling the pledge to deliver those things."

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    2. Jim, yeah, the part about bracketing out Trump. I believe that the first part of your sentence, "Conservatism has a lot to offer the country..." could be true, in an aspirational way. What I mean is, there are a lot of conservative values worth keeping and fighting for. But the part about "President Trump is fulfilling the pledge to deliver those things" is a total non-starter. He isn't a true conservative, he's a populist-sounding authoritarian wannabee. If the Repubs want to get their party back, they can't do it as long as he's the standard bearer.
      You are correct that there are down-ballot Republicans. I'll probably end up voting for at least one, Senator Ben Sasse. Not because I'm impressed with him (I'm not) but because the Democrats can't get their act together in this state and run someone viable.

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    3. "He isn't a true conservative, he's a populist-sounding authoritarian wannabee. If the Repubs want to get their party back, they can't do it as long as he's the standard bearer."

      Right. This piece by Peter Wehner is a little lengthy, but I think it's as accurate and even-handed a tabulating as I've seen of how Trump has failed conservatism.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/24/opinion/trump-conservatives-republicans.html?campaign_id=39&emc=edit_ty_20200824&instance_id=21559&nl=opinion-today&regi_id=87407961&segment_id=36813&te=1&user_id=7bba122dbc8acf5289c69a5c9f2867a2

      But that said - Trump has done some conservative things over the last four years, and I thought the convention last night did a pretty good job reminding conservative voters what those things were.

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    4. The Peter Wehner article in NYT is behind a paywall. I was able to read it here.

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    5. Trump has done some conservative things over the last four years, and I thought the convention last night did a pretty good job reminding conservative voters what those things were.

      Jim, besides putting in conservative judges, what "conservative" things has he done? Please be specific.

      He certainly has not fought for traditional conservative policies such as free trade, for strong international political and defense alliances,nor for fiscal responsibility. He enacted a program guaranteed to explode the national debt.

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    6. Anne, check out the Wehner article if you haven't already done so - he lists many things Trump has done (and the many, many things he has either failed to do or has done which are not conservative).

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    7. As nearly as I could tell, the Wehner article only mentioned judicial appointments and deregulation as Trump's conservative accomplishments. Of course deregulation is a huge category, covering some good, some bad, and a lot of ugly.

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    8. So it's fear and optimism? I guess I'd buy that.

      Just to take a slightly different tack, here are some things I think Dems and Repubs probably agree on and areas where I think they could work together, instead of stoking fears about them or how the other party is handing them:

      Clear-eyed foreign policy that does not leave us with trade and security disadvantages. I honestly think there is probably broad agreement on who the bad actors are.

      Restoration and strengthening of the middle-class through equitable tax structure and de-stagnation of wages.

      Clean air and water through far-sighted conservation efforts informed by science.

      Infrastructure improvement. We can either pay for it with proactive build-and-replace plans. Or we can pay for it in the form of disaster relief when the levees/bridges/roads/tracks/pipes fail.

      Maintaining Social Security and Medicare.

      Supporting families with minor children in ways that break cyclical poverty, domestic violence, and crime.

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    9. If Anne wants a more comprehensive list of the claims of Trump accomplishments from last night's convention, she's welcome to watch the Youtube videos of last night's speeches. I have a day job and am not currently accepting assignments to do others' homework for them :-)

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    10. Jim, I do not ask you to do homework for me. You often write very long, very detailed comments. I have read the article you suggest. But I doubt that the convention speakers mentioned most of what he said.

      The article you cite clearly lists far more conservative policies that trump has not done, and conservative values that he does he not stand for than policies he has done, and values that he lives in his personal and professional life.

      I am surprised that you could not toss off half dozen conservative policies from the convention talks from the top of your head. I doubt seriously that it would have taken you more than 2 minutes of typing - that is, if there really had been many conservative things that conservative voters were reminded of.

      Apparently there were not as many as you imply.

      I agree with Katherine on this - "As nearly as I could tell, the Wehner article only mentioned judicial appointments and deregulation as Trump's conservative accomplishments. Of course deregulation is a huge category, covering some good, some bad, and a lot of ugly."

      Perhaps you are just casting yourself as a devil's advocate with your comment?

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    11. An article by Wehner that I save some time ago.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/i-left-gop-because-trump/581965/

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    12. The Atlantic article by Wehner was good also. One thing he mentioned that I have certainly observed to be true is the degree to which political affiliation is "tribal". Awhile back I was discussing the Trump supporters in my family and acquaintances and definitely tribalism was part of their motivation.

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    13. Anne, no, not casting myself as devil's advocate. But very busy, and I didn't take any notes last night and didn't watch nearly the whole thing. If I could have tossed off a half-dozen or so examples off the top of my head, I would have done so. You should watch the convention, if you're not already doing so. To assuage you, I watched the first half hour or so tonight and made a point of keeping track. Here is a quick recap:

      * The VP of the Navajo Nation lauded the president (or so the preview article said - I was distracted while they were televising his speech) for the CARES Act, an executive order on missing and murdered indigenous women, and for establishing a productive working relationship with the Navajo. I understand the president of the Navajo Nation spoke at the Democratic Convention last week, so they apparently are hedging their bets

      * A dairy farmer from Wisconsin spoke about how the president's policies had rescued the dairy producers, who were hurting badly because of low milk prices during the previous administration

      * A machine shop owner, also from Wisconsin (think it's a key state for the Trump campaign?) credited the president with creating a more level playing field for his company by getting us out of NAFTA and into the successor agreement. Under NAFTA, he had to lay people off; post-NAFTA, they were able to hire again

      * An eighth-generation(!) Maine lobsterman, who made the incidental point that lobstermen are environmentalists - they have to be or their industry disappears - gave the president credit for ending tariffs which were hurting his business

      * In what is sure to be one of the most talked-about and controversial segments, a bank robber had his federal convictions pardoned by the president. He had had a religious conversion at the time of his trial and worked with the FBI agent who had arrested him to start an organization that helps prisoners get reacclimated into life outside the walls. Jake Tapper on CNN, and probably the rest of the Washington press corps, was incredulous that a president would issue a pardon as a convention stunt. But the guy's story is pretty moving.

      There were some other interesting speakers as well. A pretty compelling pro-life speaker who formerly was a Planned Parenthood manager talked about how witnessing an abortion up-close changed her career and life direction. I don't think she was there to laud the president's accomplishments as much as to draw the contrast between Republicans and the pro life movement on the one hand and Democrats and Planned Parenthood on the other. And Nicholas Sandmann, the MAGA-hat-wearing teen who was wrongfully excoriated by the media a couple of years ago (I think - don't remember exactly when that was) recounted his experience, and spoke out against cancel culture. He didn't say the thing I was most interested to hear, which is how much money he got from the WaPo and other media orgs with whom he has been settling.

      So there are some accomplishments there during the first hour. After those speakers, the roster started to gravitate toward politicians and members of the Trump family, and the night's theme progressively became more Trump-Trump-Trump, and I lost interest. Caught a little bit of Melania, but not much to report. The starting pitcher for one of our baseball teams, the White Sox, pitched a no-hitter tonight so we watched the end of that instead.

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    14. Jim, I don't know what that dairy farmer in Wisconsin has been drinking, but it surely wasn't milk. If he is still in business maybe he has been too busy to notice that "The Dairy State" isn't anymore and his neighbors are out of business. Not because of Obama policies, or Trump policies, but because all sorts of non-dairy milk and a cliff over which daily sales have been falling for years.

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    15. Just some thoughts here...
      Some really good suggestions from Jean at 5:27 yesterday of things both parties could agree on post-election to actually accomplish something.
      And thanks to Jim for tuning in last night and reporting on what he heard. My take-away from that is the importance of small businesses. That's something that Republican administrations do seem to support better than Democratic ones. And it's something that "both parties" need to get on board with, because small businesses are key to economic recovery and full employment.
      A caveat if the former PP employee was Abby Johnson (I think the movie "Unplanned" was about her). I'm not doubting at all that her conversion was real, or that the abortion business isn't gruesome. But the pro-life movement needs to be careful about using her for a poster child. She has been a pretty over-the-top social media personality about questionable stuff that has little or nothing to do with pro-life.
      And yeah, I'd be curious too about how much the kid got from WaPo. But he's right about cancel culture.
      Tom, if the non-dairy milk is cutting into the dairy business, it's hard to understand why. I tried going non-dairy for awhile recently thinking it might help some minor problems I was having (it didn't). Let's just say that the non-dairy milk options were a poor equivalent. Couldn't even get the cat to drink it. The way they load up prepared and take-out food with cheese anymore, it seems like the dairy business should be doing fine.

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    16. Trey Gowdy, former South Carolina congressman, is making the rounds with his book, "Doesn't Hurt to Ask." His thesis is that nobody in Congress really wants to find common ground or do the necessary arguing that it takes to find solutions to problems. It's all partisanship and winner-take-all.

      I think he is correct.

      He also made a useful distinction about conservatives ("tell you what you ought to hear" about fiscal responsibility and limited government) and populists ("tell you what you want to hear"), and seems to be criticizing Trump's conservative creds on that basis.

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    17. Katherine, I've been drinking non-dairy milk for years. I find it's good enough to go with cold cereal but I don't drink it by itself, unless I add chocolate syrup. It does keep longer.

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    18. Katherine, I didn't say it was good. I did mean that 20 years ago, the dairy case at the grocery store contained cow milk and cream almost exclusively, and now it is half full of soy, almonds and creme.

      "Wisconsin, known nationally as the nation’s dairy state, lost 818 dairy farms in 2019, a full 10% of its dairy herds, according to the latest numbers from the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection."

      From: https://www.dairyherd.com/article/wisconsin-loses-818-dairies-2019-largest-decline-state-history

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  7. The one great advantage that Trump and the Republican Party have is that they base their strategy on the assumption that Americans don't much like each other. The Republicans are in a fantasy land when it comes to science but in this case, I think they are on to something. The Democrats seem to be committed to the better angels of our nature. Those angels, I believe, are on vacation.

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    1. Boy, I think you're on to something there! Living in a multi-cultural society as Americans have for centuries requires work and energy. There are always rifts between different groups of Americans, and have always been politicians willing to deepen the rifts to delineate "their" people and power base.

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    2. Before the internet, maybe most Americans had never encountered most other Americans--a world of blissful ignorance? E.G., The St. Louis couple (the whats-its). Where had we ever seen their likes except maybe in a Road Runner cartoon?

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    3. Margaret, You mean Bonnie and Clyde. When I was a lad a funny looking ball of fur appeared atop one a telephone pole one day. Neighbors watched it off and on all day, wondering if and when it would move. The neighborhood Clyde heard what was going on, went home, got his shogun and shot a most beautiful nighthawk off the top of the pole. Quite proud of himself he was. One of the neighbors said the bird would have put on a great show for us around dusk. Since then people like the McCloskeys make me barf.

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    4. Margaret, I think TV brought Other Americans into our living rooms. I formed my biases about Southerners watching cops sic dogs on civil rights marchers. Social media, you could argue, allows you to "meet" real Southerners and to form a less generalized view of things.

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    5. One of the things I hate most about election cycles (which now are interminable) is the constant pandering to the electorate telling us how great we are. I don't feel great. Just another human who screws up and hits a home run now and then. I can't imagine what an idiot I'd be if I actually thought I were great. How can one improve without self-criticism? Do the politicians in other countries tell their people how great they are?

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    6. Jean: Yes, there was TV, Selma, etc., in the last century!
      And there is now, "Grant," the book by Ron Chernow with post-Civil War accounts of how Southerners of the white persuasion convinced themselves that they hadn't really lost the war and that they could go right on beating, shooting, and now lynching Blacks (after all, they were no longer chattel property).

      Watching the Trump supporters last evening...dairy farmer, lobster man, etc., you are reminded that there are real people growing, catching, creating real things in this country and I say good for them and good for us. But do they get the real economic connections between their livelihoods and the policies of this Administration, not just punching China in the nose and telling Canadians to keep to themselves?

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    7. About social media allowing one to "meet" real southerners, actually meeting some in person is even better. The ones I know in person aren't like the awful sherrifs. One branch of my family were Texans. Hospitality, manners, and a good sense of humor are what I remember of those people. Unfortunately the old people have passed away and we lost track after that, the younger ones would be 3rd or 4th cousins.

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    8. "Sherrifs" should be sheriffs. What I get for turning off auto-correct.

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    9. I had business trips in Dallas and New Orleans, I spent time in Atlanta with friends, a cousin married a girl from North Carolina, and Raber and I attended a little Episcopal church in West Virginia when he was in school there.

      I will say that real live Southerners never let you sit by yourself at breakfast, ignore you after church, drink alone, or sit out too many dances. And a talker like me often finds them wonderful conversationalists.

      Despite the charm, they still disconcertingly bring up the Civil War, race (to assure you they are not bigots while warning you away from the black part of town), and your Yankee accent. Southern women also like to tell you what they are wearing to a function to ensure that you don't wear the wrong thing. As someone who has a fair sense of style, this was a bit annoying.

      But, no, they're not all Bull Connor and Lester Maddox.

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    10. Jean, I can’t help but wonder how cordial and welcoming and charming they would be if I showed up with my tri-racial family. Especially my black daughter-in-law and our African-American grandchildren.

      They are supporting a racist president. We used to vacation a lot in the south, especially South Carolina, Georgia and Florida. (Beaches). We even considered retirement there at one time. Mild winters, no snow, early spring.

      I doubt that we will even vacation there in the future. We have no wish to spend our vacation money in trump states.

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    11. My charming. social, friendly southern sister-in-law told me that her parents raised their children to be racist. Her father was a judge in Jacksonville Fl. I wonder how black defendants fared in his courtroom. The irony is that she also has a biracial grandson, whom she adores. But she won’t take him to meet her family. She says she doesn’t want to expose him to her family’s racism. Now she and her husband, my husband’s brother, direct their racism towards Hispanics and Muslims. They are evangelical christian trump supporters. If you or Katherine or anybody else were to meet them, you would be totally charmed. They do not support black lives matter, and blame all violence on anti-fa, totally ignoring the documented role played by right wing, white supremacist groups in provoking the violence.

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    12. I think I mentioned that I did not find real Southerners across-the-board charming below the surface. I have a sister-in-law from Oklahoma (is that Southern or Western?). She is an utter virago.

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  8. Gritted my teeth and watched most of last night's Trump reality show. What was missing, of course, was the real Trump and the vicious Trumpisimus that we get every day. Only Pam Bondi (former AG of Fla.--how did she get through law school--oh I know, her looks) spent her whole minutes raving about Joe Biden, China, and Hunter Biden. Trump himself lumped on stage to welcome some new Americans and, later, sat quietly listening to the Mrs. She is compassionate, caring, and touched by so many hapless children (including in Africa [I think she said it was a beautiful continent], contra her lord and master. He sat there eyes at half mast, slight smile, musing on what a hell hole it really is.

    If they can keep the real Trump under wraps during the convention and maybe the campaign, I fear that many of our fellow voters will go for this picture, especially now that Kenosha is burning to the groung. Woe is us!

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    1. Margaret, we can take comfort that no one has yet been able to keep him on script for two months. Not even two weeks.

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    2. "If they can keep the real Trump under wraps during the convention and maybe the campaign"

      Yeah, this week is a giant exercise in misdirection. The president's warts and record are out there for all to behold. It's up to Biden and his team to remind everyone. Cooping himself up in the basement may not be enough.

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  9. Btw, among the speakers for tonight's (Wednesday's) festivities:

    "Sister Dede Byrne, a surgeon, retired Army colonel and member of the Little Workers of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary religious order." That's one I'll tune in for.

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    1. https://www.ncregister.com/blog/kschiffer/president-trump-just-gave-a-shoutout-to-sister-deirdre-byrne.-who-is-she

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    2. Jean, thx for that articeon Sr. Dede. Looks like she belongs to one of those orders that hasn't "kicked the habit". Non-traditional in being traditional - one of those Catholic paradoxes.

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    3. Sr. Dede's speech tonight.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZrlXvNO9VQ

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    4. Hmm. What did you think, Jim? Did she persuade you that Donald Trump is the most pro-life president ever and needs your vote?

      I laud Sister Dede for her work trying to reverse the effects of the abortion pill--that is pro-choice in it's own way!--and I support her right to speak out about what she perceives as social evils. Bonus points for mentioning refugees, whom Trump has treated abysmally at our own borders.

      I do think she conflates being anti-abortion with being pro-life. She makes a deeply orthodox Catholic argument against abortion that is moving if you already believe along those lines, but is not likely to resonate outside the denomination. She is incorrect that Biden and Harris support infanticide as most people define it. And she specifically endorses the candidate, something Sister Simone did not do in 2012 (though you could argue that she does so in a round about way by dissing the Romney-Ryan budget, which the USCCB had also done). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UgzQ5tjV_Fo

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    5. "What did you think, Jim? Did she persuade you that Donald Trump is the most pro-life president ever and needs your vote?"

      Well. It's not important to me that Trump is the *most* pro-life president (that claim sounds like typical Trump superlativizing); but it's good, by my lights, that he is an anti-abortion president. As I mentioned in the new thread which Katherine has spun up, I think he's pretty dismal on some other pro-life measures, especially the treatment of immigrants and seekers of asylum at the southern border.

      She's obviously led an extremely admirable life. I have no problem with lifting such people up to public notice.

      The non-verbals - having a nun in full habit on television screens across the nation - surely was the best outcome from the RNC's standpoint. That image said, "Good Catholics support Trump". The content of her words was almost beside the point.

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  10. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/republican-party-trump-conservative-movement-burn-it-down.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=One%20Great%20Story%20-%20August%2025%2C%202020%20-%20TEST%20A&utm_term=OGS%20Send%20Time%20TEST%20A

    THE NATIONAL INTEREST
    The Republican Party Must Be Saved From the Conservative Movement
    By Jonathan Chait AUG. 25, 2020

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    1. Finally got to the article. I’ve saved it and sent to my only sib who is also a NeverTrump Republican . Thanks for the link, Jim

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