Thursday, September 6, 2018

The Adults in the Room

I applaud the unknown(s) who wrote the Times op-ed piece, and I applaud what they say they are trying to do, but until someone invokes the 25th Amendment....which Cabinet officials and the VP can do (ask the president to step down to allow an investigation by ??the House?), we should fear for the future of constitutional order.

"It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t."

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  1. But the powers that be are getting EVERYTHING they ever dreamed of. If they started an incompetency investigation now, it would endanger an oligarchic Supreme Court being wired in for decades. It's been Christmas without end for these people. One gift after another. Let's leave Trump in for a little longer and see what goodies we get next. Maybe the country and foreign affairs won't blow up. Maybe the gaskets on the Space Shuttle won't rupture after being frozen.

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  2. I have problems with the "adults." And also with Mr. Pence if, by some chance, they are not one and the same.

    Number Uno: Didn't the author announce a coup? Not by the usual colonels but by the collection of lobbyists and think tank fellers with whom El Presidente surrounded himself?

    Numero duo: What makes the adults think Trump wasn't chosen by his voters to do precisely the things they are preventing him from doing, while hoping he'd forget about the things the adults a/k/a coupistas are permitting?

    Numero threeo: Are we really going to pretend having Trump overthrown by a cabal of people he himself chose (People like Omorosa and Lewandowski, and Gen. Flynn and Cohen and Sarah and Kellyanne and, for that matter, Mike Pence) is good for the country?

    Numero fouro: If the lodestar of that anonymous op ed isn't the formerly failed governor of Indiana, he is less of a weasel than I think he is, and has fewer guts.

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  3. I don't think a President Pence would do anything different domestically. But he wouldn't be able to cast a spell over the 40% like the Entertainer, I don't believe. In that way, I prefer Pence. He would be Maduro to Trump's Chavez.

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    1. Good point, Stanley. I had been thinking that in some ways Pence would be worse than Trump because he might actually achieve more of the bad things that he and Trump agree on than Trump can.

      But, I think you may be right. Pence wouldn't "cast a spell" in the same way that Trump seems to do. Perhaps some of the "base" might snap out of whatever trance Trump has put them under and realize what a disaster his administration is.

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    2. Yes, Anne. The forces that put Trump into power are more frightening to me than Trump but would they transfer to another object? I don't know. Trump is definitely an idiot savant in manipulation via modern media. I guess it relates to "What if you went back in time and killed Baby Hitler?"

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  4. Didn't we learn sometime in the late 1980s that Nancy Reagan and her astrologer were running the country for a couple of years there during Ronnie's second term?

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    1. Yeah, I'm thinking his Alzheimer's was kicking in a bit before the end of his second term. I believe Franklin Roosevelt was impaired at the last, as was Woodrow Wilson. That's one reason I hope we pick someone next time who isn't isn't old enough to draw social security. I don't think I'm being ageist (is that a word?)since I'm old enough to draw SS. But I know I don't have the same energy and strength that I did when I was younger.

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    2. Omorosa says the Donald Trump now running (when his minders permit) the country is not the Trump she first knew -- that his vocabulary and attention span have shrunk! Omorosa is a former administration official. Mr. Trump caused that description to be so.

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    3. Tom - the "former" part, I'm ok with. The rest is a huge issue.

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    4. Jim, I am just echoing what the duly constitutional administration said about Omorosa before the thieves had their falling out in her case.

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    5. Omorosa was not really an actor in the administration. She was the token African American in the White House, with a desk and a title, but no real work or responsibilities - or influence. Now that she is gone, there are no African Americans on the professional staff in the White House.

      Ben Carson is still in the Cabinet as far as I know, overseeing an agency that Trump would like to eliminate completely. But he seems to have disappeared from view. I assume he is still at HUD. Haven't heard a peep since the expensive table debacle, and his decision to raise the rent on poor people in govt housing.

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    6. Anne, Let's be careful. The Great Man said Omorosa was doing a great job until The Great Man said she wasn't. You and I are entitled to doubt what he said in the first place, but he is the Decider, and maybe, by the standards of his administration, she was among the great jobbers. You and I might think Sarah Sanders is not a convincing liar, but she has a significant role in the administration.

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  5. Now Elizabeth Warren is calling for the 25th amendment to be invoked. But the only chance for that to happen is if the VP or cabinet officials call for it. And so far it's crickets, anonymous editorial writers notwithstanding.

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